fishinwrench Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, dgilchrist said: out performs previous 2 stroke models. How so? Take a 15 year old Evinrude 25 and have it freshened up properly. You'll spend 1500.00. Then go buy a BRAND NEW 25 4-stroke (3700,00). Use both hard for 10 years and then get back to me in 2030 to disclose which one is still capable of performing good.
Members dgilchrist Posted February 24, 2020 Author Members Posted February 24, 2020 22 hours ago, fishinwrench said: How so? Take a 15 year old Evinrude 25 and have it freshened up properly. You'll spend 1500.00. Then go buy a BRAND NEW 25 4-stroke (3700,00). Use both hard for 10 years and then get back to me in 2030 to disclose which one is still capable of performing good. I'm no mechanic or expert. Just going by the head to head comparison test results that Mercury lists on their web site. I grew up on 2 strokes and after getting a 4 stroke, I'll never go back. The fuel economy, one pull reliability, quiet ride, and replacing carb with EFI are major performance improvements for me.
fishinwrench Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 46 minutes ago, dgilchrist said: The fuel economy, one pull reliability, quiet ride, and replacing carb with EFI are major performance improvements for me. Well, for starters there's no manual start EFI's, you gotta have a battery for THAT to work, and a 2-stroke manual start will come to life just as quickly as a manual start 4-stroke will. Neither will be "one pull" when cold. Quiet:. You got me there. There's nothing any quieter than a motor that won't run. Difference in fuel economy over a day's time could be measured in a coffee cup. Not trying to sway your decision or change your mind, I just see this flawed mindset (thinking error) spreading like the coronavirus, and I'm throwing out vaccines at every chance I get. snagged in outlet 3 and tho1mas 2
gotmuddy Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 If I was picking between the mercury and the yamaha it would be the yamaha all day long. The mercury motors are light but weak. I can definetly understand the reasoning on getting a 4 stroke. The only thing that would get me is the noise. Fishinwrench is right, the fuel savings are null. everything in this post is purely opinion and is said to annoy you.
Members Whiteriver Posted February 26, 2020 Members Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 10:24 AM, fishinwrench said: Well, for starters there's no manual start EFI's, you gotta have a battery for THAT to work, and a 2-stroke manual start will come to life just as quickly as a manual start 4-stroke will. Neither will be "one pull" when cold. Quiet:. You got me there. There's nothing any quieter than a motor that won't run. Difference in fuel economy over a day's time could be measured in a coffee cup. Not trying to sway your decision or change your mind, I just see this flawed mindset (thinking error) spreading like the coronavirus, and I'm throwing out vaccines at every chance I get. You might want to read this info in the new 25hp Yamaha's..It states that they are battery less EFI manual starts. https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/home/outboards/25-2-5-hp/25-15 Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch PORTABLE Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch
fishinwrench Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 44 minutes ago, Whiteriver said: You might want to read this info in the new 25hp Yamaha's..It states that they are battery less EFI manual starts. https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/home/outboards/25-2-5-hp/25-15 Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch PORTABLE Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch I knew it was possible to do.....but didn't know anyone was doing it. You can have it ! There's way too much going on there just to get 25 pony's worth of water push. It just ain't that serious....or shouldn't be. Over-engineering at it's finest. 143 pounds! I prolly can't curl that. 😊
Members dgilchrist Posted February 26, 2020 Author Members Posted February 26, 2020 13 hours ago, Whiteriver said: You might want to read this info in the new 25hp Yamaha's..It states that they are battery less EFI manual starts. Thanks for sharing. I did read that and watched several Youtube videos on the new Yamaha F25's. While the Stealthcraft UFO we're looking at will have batteries for the power anchor, I love the ability of using this motor without having to have an external battery. The weight and EFI is a huge plus for me. https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/home/outboards/25-2-5-hp/25-15 Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch PORTABLE Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch
Members dgilchrist Posted February 27, 2020 Author Members Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 8:16 PM, Whiteriver said: You might want to read this info in the new 25hp Yamaha's..It states that they are battery less EFI manual starts. I did and really like that capability. Even though we'll likely have a batter on the boat. Not requiring a battery is a great option for the remote guiding operations up in Canada that fish all those fly in lakes. Love seeing the innovation and technology Yamaha brings to the table. https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/home/outboards/25-2-5-hp/25-15 r 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of tture, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch PORTABLE Our 432-cc 25-hp portable outboard sports a new, streamlined, portable design and class-leading power-to-weight. In fact, it’s the lightest 25-hp outboard on the water—two-stroke or four-stroke. While its streamlined design is 25 percent lighter, it still packs exciting features like battery-less EFI. Pull-start models can now take advantage of this feature, plus the system is designed with an automatic decompression device to require even less effort for manual starting. Available for remote mechanical or tiller-handle control Only 126 pounds (15” shaft model) Available in 15” and 20” shaft lengths Powerful 16-amp alternator Variable Trolling RPM Switch (VTS®) is standard when equipped with new factory-equipped tiller handle or optional Multi-Function Tiller Handle, a Command Link® tachometer or dash mounted VTS switch
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