May 28 - Spill Gate release starts today?

[Phil Lilley]

Well, I believe the Corps will start releasing water today at Table Rock Dam.  Table Rock's level is at 930.77 feet and rising about a tenth every 3-4 hours.  The Corps likes to start these releases during the dam and give the public a couple of hours prep time via texts, public announcements and emails.

No I haven't gotten any of the above from the Corps yet.

Interestingly, Bull Shoals is releasing water from all 17 spill gates.  The app says 9,600 cfs from spill gates and 4,100 cfs from the turbine side.  They may follow suite here at Table Rock, which will be different.  Usually they considers running water over the top a waist of their resource (water). But I guess the lack of electric demand will warrant this kind of release.

I don't think they'll release more than 25,000 cfs from Table Rock.  Actually, that's my guess - 25k.  And we'll see this for a while -  a few days at least.  If the White River can handle it, it may not stop for most of the month of June.

One nice thing - running it over the top won't be pulling the colder water out of Table Rock although I don't think it will be enough to help the situation.  In these high water years, Taney's water becomes pretty stinky in late fall when this happens.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Travis Swift]

As little that is now coming in and as high as Newport is it makes me wonder if they can and will just try to control it with generators, something like 3 or 4 units?  It is going to get hot and sunny by early in the week so the power maybe needed?  And no rain in the foreseeable future. Right now Beaver is letting 7600 into Trock and Trock is releasing 7100 thru the generators so I have to wonder if they will do something like that and just ease it out until newport is low enough they can open gates?  Newport is up .41 in the last 24 hours so I don't think they can go up much more there. 

[MickinMO]

Maybe we will see a sluice gate release for the first time in like 30 years for Table Rock Dam?

[Phil Lilley]

29 minutes ago, Travis Swift said:

As little that is now coming in and as high as Newport is it makes me wonder if they can and will just try to control it with generators, something like 3 or 4 units?  It is going to get hot and sunny by early in the week so the power maybe needed?  And no rain in the foreseeable future. Right now Beaver is letting 7600 into Trock and Trock is releasing 7100 thru the generators so I have to wonder if they will do something like that and just ease it out until newport is low enough they can open gates?  Newport is up .41 in the last 24 hours so I don't think they can go up much more there. 

BS at and above flood pool level trumps anything below the dam I would think.

[Travis Swift]

You are probably right Phil.  I"m headed down in the AM and will be there till the following weekend.  I have no clue what we are going to be looking at water wise so I've got it all with me and tied on.  I need to stop in and grab some marabou and other supplies, i'll try to find ya for a chat as well.  

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59 minutes ago, Travis Swift said:

I"m headed down in the AM and will be there till the following weekend.

One of these times we'll be there at the same time....  I get there on the 7th.  And week of July 6....

[Phil Lilley]

The Corps is going to make me a liar once again.  They just bumped generation to full - 12,000 cfs.  Schedule for tomorrow - they ain't stoppin' it.

I wonder.... if they keep TR under 931 with Beaver releasing, that they keep from opening the gates.  That would be a first.

But rain is coming... if not today, it will come.  Just hope it's not... big.

Beaver - 1129.87

Table Rock 930.93

Bull Shoals 694.93

Take a picture.

[Travis Swift]

The corps is worse than a woman, you can never predict them or her and just when you think you have them figured out they flip flop on ya... 

[MickinMO]

12 hours ago, Phil Lilley said:

The Corps is going to make me a liar once again.  They just bumped generation to full - 12,000 cfs.  Schedule for tomorrow - they ain't stoppin' it.

I wonder.... if they keep TR under 931 with Beaver releasing, that they keep from opening the gates.  That would be a first.

Looks like 12000 cfs is essentially going to produce a crest below 932 and will only keep pace with inflow/evaporation. With sun and warmer temps returning to the midwest power demand should be up like normal for this time of year. Was hoping for some over the top like they are doing at Beaver and BSD. Congress and the Corps need to work on a new water control plan for the White. The current policy just ends up making flooding worse for everyone. With all the lakes full another big rain will put central and eastern Arkansas in peril anyways along with everyone else within the chain. I know they ran water all winter, but they should have dumped more. The Corps water policy is like playing russian roulette and mother nature keeps putting extra rounds in the revolver.