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So what did you guys actually suggest? 

I said if they wanted a catch and release area, it should be a stretch in zone 3 or downstream from the CCC bridge. Those are more classic flyfishing waters and those areas would not hamper handicap access. They could open up some other water for bait maybe downstream from the outlet or the spring area.

 

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Nothing keeps someone from practicing C&R on any water they want to, and designating a section of a stocked stream as C&R has always seemed silly to me. The fish will die anyway from poor handling and the stocking program will continue. It just appeases a segment of the population politically. For those folks the most remote, most difficult  and least fished water should be the section used. 

On the other hand a designated C&R on 300 yards of the most used water would be a study in how few fish survive after multiple C&R. An aspect of C&R that never gets mention in studies done in the past.  C&R the same fish a dozen times per day  and day after day and see what the fatality rates really are.

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So what did you guys actually suggest? 

I said if they wanted a catch and release area, it should be a stretch in zone 3 or downstream from the CCC bridge. Those are more classic flyfishing waters and those areas would not hamper handicap access. They could open up some other water for bait maybe downstream from the outlet or the spring area.

 

I used the free text paragraphs to focus on Barclay Wildlife.  Don't know if they care what I think, but they stock that part of the river.

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On 4/2/2023 at 6:16 PM, fishinwrench said:

OMG !   

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I should have known 🥺  

What the hell is wrong with this generation?    I'm truly becoming ok with checking out of this life whenever my time is up.     The stupidity is just too much anymore.  🙄 

And better yet.....What does THAT have to do with how they choose to manage a MF'n trout park ??????     Is that really valid survey data?

Jesus H. Christ !      Lemme guess.....only transgender opinions matter.   Good God Almighty.    😖

This should not be allowed on mdc. My god that is ridiculous. Everyone should send their rep a complaint

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On 4/9/2023 at 10:49 AM, tjm said:

Nothing keeps someone from practicing C&R on any water they want to, and designating a section of a stocked stream as C&R has always seemed silly to me. The fish will die anyway from poor handling and the stocking program will continue. It just appeases a segment of the population politically. For those folks the most remote, most difficult  and least fished water should be the section used. 

On the other hand a designated C&R on 300 yards of the most used water would be a study in how few fish survive after multiple C&R. An aspect of C&R that never gets mention in studies done in the past.  C&R the same fish a dozen times per day  and day after day and see what the fatality rates really are.

There's certainly a mortality. On another board,  BSSP's catch and release season came up, and a poster mentioned they need to add fish during it to keep numbers up.

I do wonder if a C&R area might allow for some growth and bigger fish. 

That all said,   My main point in my responses was that I wanted them to do what promoted kids and families. The other was that I wouldn't mind  if they eliminated the zones entirely. I can't seem to find a good rationale for them. I actually asked that once in an email as to why the parks have them and why they vary from park to park. The answer I got indicated they really didn't know themselves. 

In any case, if they want a catch and release area,  my thought is to have it an area that is not all that conducive to bait fishing, and then open up some water to bait that's good for a kid and his grandpa to dunk a worm. 

 

More than anything, I want to keep the swimming pool going. I didn't mention it on the form since fishery isn't under the same management, but that is an important part of the park. I know they've had problems running it.

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