Ryan Miloshewski Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 I love my Echo 3 wt. Have a Redington Rise on it and SA line. Thing casts and handles well for $150. But, with fly fishing, if you have good line you can get away with less-than-stellar rod/reel. “To those devoid of imagination a blank place on the map is a useless waste; to others, the most valuable part.”--Aldo Leopold
tjm Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 16 hours ago, Flysmallie said: Maybe glass is the way to go for that. I've fished fiberglass since the '70s (interspersed with a few graphite now and then) and think you might find a 7'6" #6-7wt more useful. In fiberglass the good stuff was made in the '60s-'70s at the end of the 'glass heyday, ideal 'glass rod weights for fresh water were 5-8wts in lengths of 6'6"- 8'6". Rods shorter than 6'6" make line handling after the cast difficult and 'glass rods longer than 8'6" tend to be heavy. Of the ~20 fly rods I own most are 6-7 wts. 'glass that I often fish with DT5F lines and my favorite lengths are 7'6" & 8', although I have 6'6" #6 that is a lot of fun on the small streams. Those vintage 'glass rods aren't line picky and most will fish pretty well with two weights under or a weight over the guessed at rod line rating. (there never has been an accepted way to rate rods for line weights) I have favorites made by Phillipson, Fenwick, Heddon and Wright&McGill. I've also had a CGR, Asian Eagle Claw and a couple other offshore 'glass rods that I don't recall being very memorable. There are some very good modern 'glass that I want to try (Chris Barclay, Shane Gray, Mike McFarland, Epic etc) but they are all small production and therefor higher priced than I want to pay, and the Asian production 'glass just isn't as nice as the US production rods of the 1950s.
Flysmallie Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, Ryan Miloshewski said: I love my Echo 3 wt. I have one of those. But it's currently a 5 piece.
Ryan Miloshewski Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Flysmallie said: I have one of those. But it's currently a 5 piece. Ha! I broke the second section of my Echo 6 wt a couple weekends ago. The warranty process was super easy and I already have a replacement for $50 with shipping. Great experience working with them. “To those devoid of imagination a blank place on the map is a useless waste; to others, the most valuable part.”--Aldo Leopold
Flysmallie Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Ryan Miloshewski said: Ha! I broke the second section of my Echo 6 wt a couple weekends ago. The warranty process was super easy and I already have a replacement for $50 with shipping. Great experience working with them. Yep, it's usually a pretty easy process with Echo. They have great customer service. I've had the same experience with Scott.
tjm Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, kjackson said: a 7'6" Orvis Fullflex glass rod for a 5 weight. Is that a yellow rod or brown/amber? I believe that Orvis "Fullflex", "Fullflex II" and earlier "Powerflex" were Phillipson rods up to (I think '74) when they started in house 'glass and graphite rod production. The Orvis made 'glass then was "Fullflex A" (amber/brown color rather than the painted yellow of the previous Phillipson sourced Fullflex) said to be "faster" than the "Fullflex". But I've not owned a Fullflex and all my Orvis rods have been graphite.
kjackson Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, tjm said: Is that a yellow rod or brown/amber? I believe that Orvis "Fullflex", "Fullflex II" and earlier "Powerflex" were Phillipson rods up to (I think '74) when they started in house 'glass and graphite rod production. The Orvis made 'glass then was "Fullflex A" (amber/brown color rather than the painted yellow of the previous Phillipson sourced Fullflex) said to be "faster" than the "Fullflex". But I've not owned a Fullflex and all my Orvis rods have been graphite. It's a golden yellow, painted finish, late 60s or very early 70s vintage. After I built it, I put away the Fenwick rod (8' for a 7 wt) I was using even when I was fishing heavy water in the Clark Fork. tjm and BilletHead 2
tjm Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 That's Phillipson blank then, very nice rods in my opinion. I have a 7'6", 6'6" & 8'6" of the Phillipson that vintage and like all of them better than the equivalent Fenwick. kjackson 1
Brian K. Shaffer Posted June 6, 2023 Posted June 6, 2023 7'6" 4pc kjackson and tjm 2 Just once I wish a trout would wink at me! ozarkflyfisher@gmail.com I'm the guy wearing the same Simms longbilled hat for 10 years now.
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