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  1. In fly fishing, You cast the weight of the fly line. In any other casting system you are casting the weight of the lure itself. Where does that leave euro fishing? Is it still fly fishing. I think the reason fly fishing has its own area is because of the belief that fishing with a fly rod is/was considered an art. In no other form do people spend so much time researching the food and needs of the fish they pursue. At least that's the way it used to be. Now it seems to be just another business.



  2. 8 hours ago, tjm said:

    The simple and correct thing to do is eliminate FFO areas.  There are no scientific or logical reasons for those fly only regulations. I participated in a forum discussion once  on a forum with a large international fly fishing membership, and after many pages and hundreds of posts the members could not define what makes a fly a "fly" nor what makes fishing "fly fishing"; it can not be readily defined and any definition that the non-fly-fishing office workers in J. City come up with will be wrong.

    The nearest we came to an acceptable definition said that fly fishing had to be done with a "fly  rod" and 'fly line." Which of course calls for more definitions.

    8 hours ago, tjm said:

    They did change that, again.


    foam beetles sold in the park store are nothing but foam and rubber legs, not sure that I've ever seen a foam fly with herl or dubbing, but that doesn't matter because like the squirmy rubber both foam and rubber legs are "any other material" and that legally is that matters.

    I would not be surprised if the changed definitions again. About the h

    url or dubbing, I always cover the shank of the hook with something like dubbing. It is just the way I tie my flies with foam.



  3. On 2/21/2021 at 9:15 PM, tjm said:

    But they are  allowed in international fly fishing, and they meet the "any other material" tied to a hook requirement.

    I am late back to this party but anyway. In a recent (year before last) a bunch of people, myself included wrote and ask for a more better definition of a fly from the state. An argument about whether foam was aloud under the state guidelines. At first they said foam wasn't allowed but so many of us wrote Think 100 or more and they finally relented and were supposedly going to address the definition of a fly and came back and replied that foam was fine since it usually was accompanied on the hook by some material like dubbing or peacock herl. However, Rubber by itself like silly worms would be prohibited in fly only areas. Think fly only section of Montauk, and Blue ribbon Streams. Outside those areas like the Meramec River, Inside Meramec Springs silly worms are allowed. Or bait sections of the parks and streams in general. This was the response we received from the Conservation Commission. Another subject about lack of agents, I used to fish Mark Twain Lake a lot for bass and it seemed every time I was there I was checked by an agent. I had not been checked for a license on any of the rivers for years in fact I can't think of one time in all the years I floated the streams of Missouri. Until two years ago. Two guys came around a sharp bend in the Current below Montauk each in a cheap Kayak. The first one flipped over and the second walked his canoe around the bend. It turned out they were Conservation Officers. One ask to check my license, after I stopped laughing at him. I ask him why I didn't see more of them since I see people snagging fish all the time and the reply was, there is only one agent per county. 



  4. 19 hours ago, ColdWaterFshr said:

    Lane Spring Rec area is only a couple hundred yards down stream of the 63 bridge.  I can see why they closed the 63 access . . . . . it was getting trashed.

    I have been there several times and it didn't seem to trashed out though I did pick up some that was there. One fisherman I talked to in Lane Springs was doubtful the fence was legal. I haven't used the access that often but it does cut down on my options.



  5. 4 hours ago, Johnsfolly said:

    If the hatcheries are filled with fish, then why aren't there going to be any stockings. Seems strange to me.

    Ya got me John. Some friends hit Cardiac Hill before all of the rain and did well on Browns. I was just wondering if the hatcheries have been stocking the White Ribbon streams and Taney that they normally do? I am guessing no since your not hearing much from the regulars. They better stock the streams up, the crowd will like the opener on the 16th


  6. 8 hours ago, Brian Sloss said:

    I will be opening the cottages when I see medical professionals saying it is time.  Hoping mid May or first of June.  There will probably be policy and procedure changes based on CDC advisories.  I will rely on medical advise though, not politicians.

    I think that is wise. I and some friends were planing on going to the Eleven Point this year. I guess it will be later rather than sooner. Good luck and stay healthy.


  7. On 4/15/2020 at 3:10 AM, Brian Sloss said:

    I am not currently renting my cottages out due to the virus.  Please consider when you visit, you may be bringing the virus unknowingly.  We have our 1st confirmed case.  People have been packing in places like McCormack Lake, creating their own little village of people on weekends and popping into the grocery store.  Please consider giving the area more time until the doctors (not politicians) give the all clear.  If you live down the road and can get here without stops for gas or services, then enjoy.  That has been my rule of thumb, get outside everyday, but I have been keeping myself in my home county for now.  No long drives.


       Will you be reopening your cottages in May if Parson  advises it is safe to get back to business as usual?


  8. 39 minutes ago, mdrstl said:

    When you say "Lane Spring Closed" do you mean the gate was locked or locked and a sign stating do not enter? 

    The Gate was locked. The Forest Service isn't servicing the campgrounds at this time. You can still access the creek from the highway if you wish. I may do that next time I am out. I sure like the Little Piney.


  9. I made a run at fishing today and failed miserably. I hit Spring Creek, it was up but clear. no hits. Drove over to Lane Spring only to find it closed. I stopped at Blue Spring Creek, it was up and since I haven't been down since last year I wasn't prepared for some of the changes. I did manage to hook a few trout but lost both of them. It was still a nice day out.



  10. I have a pair of Redington Sonic Pro waders I have been using for 5 years. I punctured and ripped them soon after I bought them. I sent them back and they replaced them for $35 and haven't had any trouble since then. I have been very happy with them. You can often find them on sale if you check around.



  11. On 3/22/2020 at 10:57 AM, Seth said:

    We won’t have to worry about it for a while. I saw on Facebook where they are closing it down after today....

    Montauk is still open as is Bennet I believe. Buy your tags as usual, it said venders are working  (soda machines or sales inside?) whatever that means. I would be sure to take whatever you need.

    Don't everyone distance at once


  12. 4 hours ago, Seth said:

    We won’t have to worry about it for a while. I saw on Facebook where they are closing it down after today....

    Montauk is still open as is Bennet I believe. Buy your tags as usual, it said venders are working  (soda machines or sales inside?) whatever that means. I would be sure to take whatever you need.



  13. I don't think I have to worry about the guys getting rowdy. Most of us are retired old farts just wanting to fish a different stream. This trip is just an exploratory venture to see if they want to start a yearly thing or not. I may take the suggest that we split the trip into separate groups and just do one river at a time.  As to the Number of guys going, I really do not have a head count, eight was just a number that came to mind. Sunburst sounds good for a start. Where can we access the Blue Ribbon area by foot, keep in mind some of these guys have physical limitation. Thanks for the input.



  14. On 1/27/2020 at 9:35 AM, snagged in outlet 3 said:


    I have to eat major crow now. I went back and checked my information. In 2012 Iran exported 1.5 million barrels a day 2nd largest in the oil producing nations. China and india have deals with Iran to develop and produce more production.

    My apologies for the misinformation.





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