Thanks Mike, but this was all her. She has a lot invested in these chicks, time more than anything. We had them in a plastic tub before, and would get home from work and they were roaming the house pooping everywhere. She got a bigger tub, cut a big hole out of the lid and zip tied wire over the hole so they could fly out. She comes home daily from her nurse job and spends an hour redoing their stuff. She is very committed. The chickens are her relaxation.