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Locals keep it quiet... they covet their walleye. And stripers.
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I think they are... swimming minnows early and late and at night.
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It all depends on generation... where you can wade, if you can wade. Keep an eye on reports here and when it gets closer to your trip, ask again.
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I think you meant to post this under the White River forum. You're fishing below Bull Shoals dam on the White since you're staying at the campground there, I assume. I'll move it over there. You'll get more answers I think once it's moved.
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Drift fishing worms with a scud????
Phil Lilley replied to Jeff Polys's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
You can use a bead head but not really for drifting. They'll drag too much. It's more for using it under an indicator. #12 is the biggest you'd use. #14 and #16's are working better. Gray and brown are working good too. -
Bill and Roberta Sheriff. Awesome people.
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We've had about 25 new members join this past week. All REAL people.... I hope. Spammers are getting pretty tricky. Hope everyone feels free to introduce themselves and participate. Welcome!
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Looks like Beaver is now running 24/7 and it's dropping a little. Not sure what this snow is going to add but I wouldn't think much. Should soak in real good. Table Rock's running 4 full today. I don't think it's because it's cold - only. It's been colder this winter and they didn't blast the water like this. May be they're starting to drop the lakes... let's hope so. We'll see how anglers adjust to this flow. Might be tough... but that's nothing new. I do think we'll see some big trout this weekend. RAW is Saturday. We were thinking it was going to break the 100 boat mark but not now. I hope not. Because of the snow, parking is a nightmare, Cooper boat ramp is a no-go, only the city ramp will be manageable. But I'm guessing we'll still have 60-70 teams. We'll see.
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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 1, 2022
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Seems like there's been an increase of catching browns up and down from Fall Creek in the last month. Small ones and big ones. -
Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 1, 2022
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 1, 2022
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
The water patterns of course changed yesterday. They're running water all day and off at night. Me and Blake caught good numbers yesterday on 1/32 oz jigs. No size really. But it was nice to catch fish on jigs again. -
Happened with one unit but our A/C guy said it's something that's he's seen happen with other units - same part going bad. And of course the part is hard to get.
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Best I can tell is a switch or something went out and the units stayed on when it should have shut off, overloading the circuit. Ryan said the electricity "backed up" and should have tripped the breaker. But we had a 30 amp instead of a 20 amp and it didn't fried the plug black - and was still running when we discovered it. It would have caught fire if we didn't check. We've checked and changed all of our breakers since. The split -
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Starting this conversation to see if anyone else is seeing the same thing. We've bought 12 new Amana's last year. Through the wall units. We're already having issues. One almost caused a fire last week. We bought one of the splits for our laundry a few years ago. They're supposed to be the cat's meow... but we started having issued - not coming on, not heating. Our long-time tec who sold us all these units can't find out what's wrong. He said he can't get good info from the company (s). and he's quit selling new units because "all of them are junk". He's about to retire and is only doing repair. With all the new houses/condos being built now, I wonder if we're going to have a big problem with getting a/c to work, fixed, parts shortage and all of it.
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I agree. He needs to get on top of his health. I thought the Chiefs were over confident, not cocky, over confident. They were cocky last year. But that last play of the first half was just bad. Mahomes has matured a ton - even through this season - but he has to stay within the plan and the plan was to throw into the end zone. Hill shouldn't even had been out on the flat. If they stay healthy, they'll be there again next year.
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I usually start my fishing reports, talking about generation and fishing conditions. This dictates how we are fishing, which is most important. But I need to report on how catching has been this past month. And to be honest, there have been a lot of anglers who have been pretty frustrated with catching trout. Now we've seen some great quality rainbows and browns caught, but that's really not the problem. It's numbers . . . we're not seeing big numbers of fish caught. And I think there's a couple of reasons why this is the case. First, there's fewer rainbows stocked in our lake. The Missouri Department of Conservation changed their stocking numbers a couple of years ago to hopefully increase the size of our trout. Less little fish, more food, more big trout. And it's worked tremendously! We've seen more 16-inch-plus rainbows caught this year than any other year I've been on the lake -- nearing 39 years. But it comes with a price. Fewer smaller rainbows. I think the other factor is that the mature trout are smart . . . and growing smarter. They know what real, natural food is, and they seem to know what the fake stuff is, generally speaking. That's why we're seeing more big trout being caught on jerk baits and scud flies. They eat a lot of scuds and sow bugs, midges and forage fish -- minnows and sculpins. And the bigger trout, especially browns, eat small rainbows when they graduate to big-boy status. The number of rainbows that will be stocked in February will increase from January, which is great news. And our trout that are here will get even bigger . . . more good news. But you might have to work at catching them a little harder than in years past. Little things make a difference. The generation pattern this month has held up fairly consistently for Lake Taneycomo. We're seeing pretty hard flows starting at daylight and running until about 11 a.m., then no generation until about 4 to 6 p.m.. Then we have had more hard flows for a few hours. There have been deviations in the amount of water releases and the duration, but the one thing that's been steady is no generation every afternoon. The different flows give anglers various fishing opportunities, whether you're fishing from a boat, wading below the dam or fishing off of a dock. In the mornings, when operators are running anywhere from two to four units, a jerk bait worked along the bluff banks as well as the middle of the lake, has been good for catching good-sized trout, including browns lately. The best setup is a 5'6" to 6' medium-action rod with eight-pound line. Use jerk baits that suspend and dive about five-to nine-feet deep. Drag jerk baits on the bottom, especially when the water is running more than three units. Use an Ozark Drift Rig and the appropriate bell weight to tick the bottom. We carry some cheap, small jerk baits that float, shallow divers. ( I say cheap because you'll lose a fair share of them to snags.) Remove the front set of treble hooks to help keep them from getting snagged. Marabou jigs have been working fairly well. White has been good in the trophy area, as well as black and olive. Brown and sculpin are working better below Fall Creek, working the middle of the lake more than the sides. We're using four-pound line when throwing the heavier jigs (1/8, 3/32nd) and two-pound line when working the smaller jigs (1/16, 1/32nd). If two units or less are running, either fly or spin fishing, fishing a scud under an indicator has been pretty successful, both above and below Fall Creek. Use a double scud rig or a scud/egg or scud/zebra midge combo, but adjust the float to where the bottom fly is very close to the bottom. You may have to use a weighted, beaded scud or a split shot to keep the flies close to the bottom. We fish this from the middle of the lake to over to the shallow side. Dragging bait below Fall Creek has been fairly effective lately, especially using night crawlers or minnows. Gulp PowerEggs in white or chartreuse have been working down closer to the Branson Landing early in the mornings. If not too much water is running, anchoring on the inside bends close to the bank and tight lining with minnows or worms is productive. When the water is off in the afternoons, the mentioned bait is working below Fall Creek, especially night crawlers. If there's a chop on the water, jig-and-float using a brown or olive jig three- to six-feet deep is working. Best areas are above our resort, Short Creek area and up close to Fall Creek. Also try pink or black/yellow 1/50th-ounce and smaller jigs. use two-pound line or 6x tippet for best results. Fly fishing has been a lot of fun with the water off in the afternoons. And I've been doing the best using zebra midges under an indicator in all conditions. Red, black or rusty #14 midges under a float anywhere from 12 inches to four-feet deep and using 6x or 7x tippet. There's really no bad place to use these flies, especially if you see trout working the surface. But I've been fishing just below Fall Creek as well as in the Narrows area, fishing out of my boat.
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I usually start my fishing reports, talking about generation and fishing conditions. This dictates how we are fishing, which is most important. But I need to report on how catching has been this past month. And to be honest, there have been a lot of anglers who have been pretty frustrated with catching trout. Now we've seen some great quality rainbows and browns caught, but that's really not the problem. It's numbers . . . we're not seeing big numbers of fish caught. And I think there's a couple of reasons why this is the case. First, there's fewer rainbows stocked in our lake. The Missouri Department of Conservation changed their stocking numbers a couple of years ago to hopefully increase the size of our trout. Less little fish, more food, more big trout. And it's worked tremendously! We've seen more 16-inch-plus rainbows caught this year than any other year I've been on the lake -- nearing 39 years. But it comes with a price. Fewer smaller rainbows. I think the other factor is that the mature trout are smart . . . and growing smarter. They know what real, natural food is, and they seem to know what the fake stuff is, generally speaking. That's why we're seeing more big trout being caught on jerk baits and scud flies. They eat a lot of scuds and sow bugs, midges and forage fish -- minnows and sculpins. And the bigger trout, especially browns, eat small rainbows when they graduate to big-boy status. The number of rainbows that will be stocked in February will increase from January, which is great news. And our trout that are here will get even bigger . . . more good news. But you might have to work at catching them a little harder than in years past. Little things make a difference. The generation pattern this month has held up fairly consistently for Lake Taneycomo. We're seeing pretty hard flows starting at daylight and running until about 11 a.m., then no generation until about 4 to 6 p.m.. Then we have had more hard flows for a few hours. There have been deviations in the amount of water releases and the duration, but the one thing that's been steady is no generation every afternoon. The different flows give anglers various fishing opportunities, whether you're fishing from a boat, wading below the dam or fishing off of a dock. In the mornings, when operators are running anywhere from two to four units, a jerk bait worked along the bluff banks as well as the middle of the lake, has been good for catching good-sized trout, including browns lately. The best setup is a 5'6" to 6' medium-action rod with eight-pound line. Use jerk baits that suspend and dive about five-to nine-feet deep. Drag jerk baits on the bottom, especially when the water is running more than three units. Use an Ozark Drift Rig and the appropriate bell weight to tick the bottom. We carry some cheap, small jerk baits that float, shallow divers. ( I say cheap because you'll lose a fair share of them to snags.) Remove the front set of treble hooks to help keep them from getting snagged. Marabou jigs have been working fairly well. White has been good in the trophy area, as well as black and olive. Brown and sculpin are working better below Fall Creek, working the middle of the lake more than the sides. We're using four-pound line when throwing the heavier jigs (1/8, 3/32nd) and two-pound line when working the smaller jigs (1/16, 1/32nd). If two units or less are running, either fly or spin fishing, fishing a scud under an indicator has been pretty successful, both above and below Fall Creek. Use a double scud rig or a scud/egg or scud/zebra midge combo, but adjust the float to where the bottom fly is very close to the bottom. You may have to use a weighted, beaded scud or a split shot to keep the flies close to the bottom. We fish this from the middle of the lake to over to the shallow side. Dragging bait below Fall Creek has been fairly effective lately, especially using night crawlers or minnows. Gulp PowerEggs in white or chartreuse have been working down closer to the Branson Landing early in the mornings. If not too much water is running, anchoring on the inside bends close to the bank and tight lining with minnows or worms is productive. When the water is off in the afternoons, the mentioned bait is working below Fall Creek, especially night crawlers. If there's a chop on the water, jig-and-float using a brown or olive jig three- to six-feet deep is working. Best areas are above our resort, Short Creek area and up close to Fall Creek. Also try pink or black/yellow 1/50th-ounce and smaller jigs. use two-pound line or 6x tippet for best results. Fly fishing has been a lot of fun with the water off in the afternoons. And I've been doing the best using zebra midges under an indicator in all conditions. Red, black or rusty #14 midges under a float anywhere from 12 inches to four-feet deep and using 6x or 7x tippet. There's really no bad place to use these flies, especially if you see trout working the surface. But I've been fishing just below Fall Creek as well as in the Narrows area, fishing out of my boat. View full article
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How about instead you engage by providing proof that the said information is wrong and dangerous. Insulting and ridiculing is over the top. It's not something anyone should do to anyone. Note: I didn't watch the video nor will I. I'm not interested nor do I have time.
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I haven't used dry ice much. When I have used it, it does freeze what it's touching. Is there a rule of thumb when using dry ice? Tricks?
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Glen - you need to delete some messages - your mail box is full (100). I found a new tool in Google Adsense. I blocked about 600 ads by going through and picking types that I could block. We'll see if it changes things. I don't want these particular ads on this site just as much as you don't. But this has nothing to do with you personally, I can assure you of that.
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Here's the thread with images...
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At the end of regulation, I was ok with either team winning. They both deserved it.
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February 2022 Ozark Anglers Crane Creek trip
Phil Lilley replied to Brian K. Shaffer's topic in Crane Creek
All Brian wanted to do is get some guys together and fish a day. No tournament. Me and Brian will go fishing and we’ll have a great day.