Phil Lilley

Where did you buy components? Want to put a center console in it.

It had 5/8 in plywood on it. That might be tough to find in treated.

well, get ready for more water!!!!! Just kidding. They're shutting back flows at all the dams. Beaver shut down yesterday. We've shut down this morning. Holding all lakes at flood pool until the next deluge.... which may be coming next week. Cristobal!

What pits are you fishing? I wish I would have taken advantage of the pits growing up there. We did a Boy Scout camp out once somewhere in the pits -- couldn't tell you where. Went snake hunting with a friend once. Just didn't take the time to learn about them.

Anybody have any experience in completely rebuilding a pontoon? I have an old 24-foot Generation that I've dismantled down to the pontoon frame. Want to add a new deck, rails - basically everything. I see pontoon part sites on the internet.... looking for may be more local dealers I can work with. Any suggestions. Thanks

Yep... there it is

I'll work on it.

I saw that model here the other day and was wondering. I see that also in the 7 day NOAA model starting to move this way. Not sure why some forecasts say below normal rainfall in June for us... goes to show it changes daily. Yeah they could keep dumping what they're moving now till June 12 and still we may be in trouble if this moves up through us. There's a lot of water in the gulf right now.

I’m looking at my Corps App, the lake forecast section, and noting Beaver Dam is now shut down, it looks like Table Rock and Bull Shoals will shut down to later this week. It appears they are going to hold these lakes at flood pool. I see the forecast for the lower White River will decrease quite a bit starting Thursday. The only way that happens is if they stop the flow at BS. i thought we’d see this flow for much of the summer. We’ll see it at some point but not for a while. Long range 30 day forecast is foot below average rain fall. Hope that holds!!

Note: This report will be current for as long as the gates are open, which may be for most of the month of June. We've gone from very little generation to a torrent. But this was predicted and expected. When the lakes filled up, water would have to be released. And it is -- to the tune of 17,800 cubic feet per second. This might sound like a huge release, but it isn't. Four full units is about 15,000 c.f.s., so this is just a little more. Dam operators are releasing 12,300 c.f.s. through the turbines and 5,500 c.f.s. over five spill gates right now. More fun facts -- the water temperature of the lake water coming through the turbines is 49.5 degrees F, and the water coming over the gates is 62 degrees. Table Rock Lake's level just dipped below its flood pool level. It's at 930.90 feet, dropping a whopping 0.1 feet in the last 12 hours. Beaver is still releasing about 7,300 c.f.s. of water and its level is a full foot below flood pool at 1,128.96 feet. This flow from Table Rock Dam probably won't decrease for many weeks, since it needs to drop more than 16 feet, and Beaver needs to drop about 10 feet. At this time, there is no measurable rain in the seven-day forecast, which is a good thing. I'm sure that will change, and any precipitation will only lengthen the period of time of water release at our dams. As I reported in my last fishing reports and amid our conversations on One Cast, enjoy the low water we had the last couple of weeks because it was probably the last for the duration of the summer. Heavy flows are here to stay for this summer season. Fishing from the bank or dock will be tough on the upper end of the lake. There are a few spots around the hatchery outlets below the dam where you can catch fish, but those are in the trophy area, so you're limited to flies and lures -- no soft plastics or anything scented. And, yes, night crawlers smell! We've had a rash of poachers fishing below the dam with bait who have been keeping all kinds of fish, mostly illegal trout. Now we'll likely see people fishing above the cable at the dam, which is also illegal -- and dangerous. But our agents aren't too busy with deer or turkeys, so they have a lot of time to check these areas. Plus many of us anglers are ready to capture photos on our phones to immediately send to our local agents. A picture of a license plate and the poachers themselves go a long way toward prosecution, even if they are "caught red handed" at the scene. Here are their phone numbers. Best to text them. My experience with texting them is that I rarely get a response, and that's okay with me. They may not be on duty or able to drive to the location at that time. But they will respond if they are able to. Quinten 417-294-5543 Chris 417-546-0833y Operation Game Theft 800-392-1111 With any amount of generation, there are some things that you should not do for your own safety. Don't use anchors in fast current. Don't drift into trees or docks. Stay aware of where you're going and plan ahead when drifting in current. Watch out for kayakers and other boats. WATCH YOUR WAKE!! We've seen some big boats on the lake lately. I think they call them wake boats. Unlike Table Rock, Taneycomo is small and narrow. Plus we have a lot of smaller boats that can be swamped with one big wake. Over the weekend we had one report of a smaller v-bottom boat pulling up to the cable below the dam and dropping an anchor. When the anchor caught the bottom, it almost threw one person out of the boat. They had to cut the anchor rope so that the boat wouldn't be swamped. Think!!! The risk is not even worth the fishing prospects. There is slower water close to the bank where one can anchor, but be very smart about it. Dragging chains is the same thing. If they catch on the bottom while the boat is drifting at 6 m.p.h., the jolt will send everybody to the deck and/or the side of the boat. Fishing . . . scuds are king once again! These are scuds (freshwater shrimp) from the bellies of three rainbows caught yesterday by clients of Tony Weldele. They drifted from Fall Creek down using scuds and did quite well. We saw large schools of scuds along our banks and in the pond weed beds before heavy generation started this weekend. And in high water events in the past, we've seen scuds dislodged from their environment and eaten by trout, so drifting scud flies has proved successful. Using four-pound line, we are drifting #12 scuds either on a drift rig or carolina rig. Use a quarter-ounce weight when drifting from the dam down to Lilleys' Landing and a 3/16-ounce weight from Lilleys' Landing on down lake. The water slows down enough to warrant less weight from Lilley's down. If you use too much weight, you'll get snagged on the bottom a lot. But one thing is for sure -- you have to have the fly on the bottom to garner the bit. Scud colors make somewhat of a difference. Of course, gray is their natural color but as you can see from the image, they are a brownish/olive color, too, so we also use those colors. I used a scud Sunday dubbed with a material called rainbow scud dubbing and did pretty well, especially below Fall Creek. I was having a hard time staying on the bottom. What I should have done is add a small split shot to the line just above the bell weight. This is an easy and quick way to adjust your weight. Drifting night crawlers and minnows on the bottom from Lilley's down lake is catching some trophy browns lately, too. We used a #6 or #8 hook, 3/16-ounce weight and four-pound line. No need to inject air in the worm since it will stay off the bottom with this much current running. Orange PowerEggs have been the hot PowerBait lately. Drifting in the Monkey Island area down through Branson Landing has produced some nice limits of rainbows. Also throwing Cleos and other small spoons, but let them drop down a bit before reeling. Vary the speed of retrieve, too. Freshly stocked rainbows are prone to chase, and the stocking boat has been out stocking rainbows quite a bit lately down in the Branson Landing area. In the trophy area, I've already covered drifting scuds on the bottom. Some of our guides are also using San Juan Worms, shad flies and egg flies, along with the scuds. You can use a double rig, tying on two flies about 12 inches apart. The drawback is if you snag and lose your rig, you lose two flies instead of one. When drifting more than one drift, pick different paths each time you drift down, especially if you're not catching very many. Also, I pay attention to my running path up lake. I don't like to run over the same water I'll be drifting down. And, of course, try to be courteous to those who are fishing when running. Drifting small jerk baits I expect will become more and more effective as this flood gate event continues. More and more shad will enter the lake, and these small lures are just the thing to catch some big trout. Use a floating jerk bait about 2.5 to 3 inches long in shad colors. Any brand will do. Less expensive is better because you will lose some lures. Rig them using a drift rig or carolina rig. Start with an 1/8-ounce weight and add weight if needed. Four-pound line is fine but even six-pound isn't too heavy. Throw a suspending jerk bait for big trout. Early and late in the day are the best times. Anywhere from Rockaway Beach to Table Rock Dam is the best place, and not even against a bank where we usually fish. We've been seeing big trout come from the middle of the lake. The trophy area has been hot, as well as the Cooper Creek Flats. As for baits, the Suspending Rouges, MegaBass 110+, Duane's Custom Baits, Smithwick Stick Baits all will work. Make sure they dive more than eight feet deep and are suspending. Use a snap swivel for best action (make sure it's a strong swivel and not a cheap one since they do break). With the spill gates open, there are warm water species of fish coming in to Taneycomo from Table Rock with a lot of smallmouth bass and white bass caught. This is pretty much at random, but they are hitting white jigs along the bank in the slower water. Images courtesy of Becky and Seth Garrison who enjoyed a week fishing Lake Taneycomo. Scud image cutesy of Captain Tony Weldele, Rainbow Chasers Guide Service. View full article

Powersite I don't think so. No head pressure. There's still a pretty good drop between lakes. Taney's tailrace level is 712.5 feet. It's 702.5 at Ozark Beach https://waterdata.usgs.gov/mo/nwis/uv?site_no=07053820 Interesting... it drops 10 feet from dam to dam. I didn't realize that. I don't see a reading for BS at Powersite. Bottom line is that there's plenty of water going over PS for a fish to swim over.

I talked about this on One Cast tonight... but I said throw Cleos or something like that from the Branson Landing down lake. MDC just stocked and they are nice sized rainbows - and they like to chase. Try going up in Roark Creek. They like to get out of the current too. Should be pretty good.

We have some openings here at the resort this week but most of them are bigger units. We will discount those units for smaller groups of people -- like unit #27 is a lake front 4 bedroom house. If you only use 1 or 2 bedrooms, we only charge you for a single or 2-bedroom lake front rate. Unit #27 is the house we used to live in. it is open all week, as well as #18, #23 and #25. Check out our lodging page for more details and give us a call. https://lilleyslanding.com/lodging/

This has happened before... and we've not gotten any. I mean the lakes have been full like this before. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if some come over Powersite and up our lake. Would be a first.

Tomorrow, 5/30/2020, Table Rock Dam will open gates 3, 5, 7, and 9 to one foot each at noon. The total spillway release will be about 5,500 cfs. Combined with hydropower, the total discharge from the dam will be around 17,500 cfs.

I think your SM would have tied Bill Jr. We would have had to cut the plaque in two...

The Corps is going to make me a liar once again. They just bumped generation to full - 12,000 cfs. Schedule for tomorrow - they ain't stoppin' it. I wonder.... if they keep TR under 931 with Beaver releasing, that they keep from opening the gates. That would be a first. But rain is coming... if not today, it will come. Just hope it's not... big. Beaver - 1129.87 Table Rock 930.93 Bull Shoals 694.93 Take a picture.

BS at and above flood pool level trumps anything below the dam I would think.

Well, I believe the Corps will start releasing water today at Table Rock Dam. Table Rock's level is at 930.77 feet and rising about a tenth every 3-4 hours. The Corps likes to start these releases during the dam and give the public a couple of hours prep time via texts, public announcements and emails. No I haven't gotten any of the above from the Corps yet. Interestingly, Bull Shoals is releasing water from all 17 spill gates. The app says 9,600 cfs from spill gates and 4,100 cfs from the turbine side. They may follow suite here at Table Rock, which will be different. Usually they considers running water over the top a waist of their resource (water). But I guess the lack of electric demand will warrant this kind of release. I don't think they'll release more than 25,000 cfs from Table Rock. Actually, that's my guess - 25k. And we'll see this for a while - a few days at least. If the White River can handle it, it may not stop for most of the month of June. One nice thing - running it over the top won't be pulling the colder water out of Table Rock although I don't think it will be enough to help the situation. In these high water years, Taney's water becomes pretty stinky in late fall when this happens.

https://ozarkflyfisherjournal.wordpress.com/2020/05/27/beat-that-on-your-first-day/

Can you post the url for this image please? Thanks

The app is broken. Don't pay any attention to it, on Taneycomo anyhow.

The only thing I can think of is that there's not a big demand for power. They can't store it. And hydro must be in full swing since everything is full. TR is approaching 931 with Beaver now running. I'd say by this time tomorrow, everything will be running. Hope they can keep it moving through Bull. Need to get some of this water from my front yard to my back yard...

The reel should be smooth out of the box. You should return it. As for fishing, it was tough for Bill and I too. The dirty water didn’t help.