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Everything posted by Phil Lilley
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Yea nothing said about a "trip" in the code. It's plain "possession".
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4 a day, 8 in possession. Says he's buying more bait with his money.... cause he "likes trout fishing".
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This guy has posted in a bunch of FB groups here locally that he's selling "cleaned and packaged" trout for $4 each. Yes, the authorities have been alerted but supposedly he's defending his new biz online saying it's perfectly legal because he's "fishing from the bank and not from a boat". He's in for a rude awakening... I've been told that it's a felony for selling game fish.
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Just wanted to get the word out. Not many details yet but the dates are set and so is our instructor. John McCloskey. December 14, 15, 16, 2018. Lilleys' Landing Resort. Here's some information on John: https://www.hatchoutdoors.com/prostaff/john-mccloskey/ https://www.facebook.com/john.mccloskey.9210 http://riverthroughatlanta.com/our-guides/john-mccloskey/ Limited participants. Lodging and meals will be included.
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http://www.ky3.com/video/?vid=490411181
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midge, scud and other fly questions
Phil Lilley replied to Travis Swift's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Depending on how much water, most of those guides are running lots of line between their float and fly, plus split shots. Up to 12+ feet which is crazy but works. Hard to bring the fish in once the float hits the rod tip. Otherwise, you're stripping streamers along the banks. You can fish the eddies if it's only 2 units with a bigger midge under a float - or a miracle fly (egg on a jig head). Or a dry too. Hopper, beatle, stimulator or something. But that bite hasn't happened for me yet at least this summer. -
I'd say it should push 10 pounds. May be 11. Nice!
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Trout are biting on my lake just fine...
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midge, scud and other fly questions
Phil Lilley replied to Travis Swift's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Been doing well stripping cracklebacks and soft hackles the last few days. Need either some current and/or chop on the water. I haven't thrown them but woolies should work too. They've been wanting to chase. Scud/midge combo rig - scud on the bottom always. Or if you're fishing a soft hackle over a scud, fish the soft hackle on the bottom and swing it. I like current when fishing a san juan. The Mega... I haven't no opinion really. I haven't done well using it but others have. -
Under our dock. We've had several guests lose their fish to otters the last few days. Some funny stories too. Duane had a hold of the stringer while I stuck the Gopro under the water. They were spooky cause they could see us. Will try to get more video of them when we hear them around. There were 5 of them.
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Amazing property 1/2 mile from Stockton Lake
Phil Lilley replied to Jennifer Kornblum's topic in Buy - Sell - Trade
@Jennifer Kornblum I'll leave this up for a day or so because it is related to Stockton Lake - and may be someone here wants a nice house close to Stockton. But we really don't allow someone to join this fishing forum and post advertisements without some history here on the site. It is spelled out in the rules you agreed to when you signed up. -
We have a lot of water snakes on the bank but this one is very light and the markings aren't the same as this one. I've called most of them diamond back water snakes because that's what we called them in Kansas - looked the same. But I'll take your word for it. And yes we have had both copperheads and moccasins on property in the past.
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What kind of snake? There's some disagreement on Facebook. This is on our bank... so it's a local snake. We thought it was an albino corn snake.
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With the cool down in our weather this past week, generation patterns had changed a bit on Lake Taneycomo. Dam operators were only running water in the afternoon for a couple of hours and then less than a full unit. And then the weather changed again. With warmer temperatures, they ran all four units on Wednesday late afternoon for three hours. That really was a good thing because it cleaned out the upper end of the lake of floating dead algae which has built up over the past week. What they are going to do now with generation is anyone's guess. Water temperature is holding at 49-50 degrees, up just slightly from a month ago. Water clarity is more than 12 feet, very clear, which is normal for this time of year. Trout fishing has been very good all summer. We've witnessed no periods of slow fishing, which we normally see at some point in the summer. The average size of rainbows stocked by the Missouri Department of Conservation has been very good, too. I'm going to run through the obvious techniques that are working right now, and have been working all summer. Of course, the number one choice is the pink Powerworm on a small jig head, two-pound line fished under a float five- to eight-feet deep. Also doing well is the a jig-and-float using a 1/100th-ounce jig, two-pound line under a float from four- to six-feet deep. Colors: Best is the sculpin or brown with an orange head, but other earth colors are working okay, such as black, olive and ginger. If you watch One Cast, you know the sculpin/ginger 1/32nd- or the 1/16th-ounce jig with a brown head, two-pound line is catching trout like crazy. The black/olive and plain sculpin are also producing, too, but not as much as the sculpin/ginger jig. If dam operators do start heavy generation again, go for big browns by throwing stick baits! If you didn't see Duane's article, read how throwing these "bass baits" can land you a trophy brown trout. Here's another article by Ryan Miloshewski. Fly fishing: Some say it's not a "fly," but the 1/100th-ounce jig under a float with a fly rod is a lot of fun. I've been taking advantage of the low water to fish with it. I found a lot of rainbows on the bluff channel side of the lake from Fall Creek's dock down to Short Creek Tuesday morning this week. They also took a #16 red Zebra Midge under a float five-feet deep using 6x tippet. No dry fly action to report, but a few people have ventured out at night to fly fish below the dam, wading and throwing leaches and streamers. Angler have also skated mice across the surface below the dam and below Lookout Island along the bluff down to Fall Creek. I've been fishing some in the trophy are below Lookout Island and doing okay on the Zebra Midge but better on the 1/100th-ounce brown jig with an orange head. Scuds are working fine. Try a brown or tan, #14 or #16 if the water is off and larger if the water is running. If you find a chop on the surface, strip an olive or brown wooly bugger, a 56'er, a crackleback or a soft hackle. Bait fishing off the dock has also been pretty consistently good this summer. Night crawlers have been good, but Powerbait has been a bit better with pink and orange the best colors. And an old favorite has made a comeback... Pautzsky's Balls of Fire salmon eggs are doing very well, plain and gold label with gold glitter. Again, two -pound line is best for catching more fish. I've mentioned a couple of things in my report that are important if you want to catch more trout. First, our water is very clear right now and, second, use two-pound line. Every year about this time, our water becomes gin clear and the trout can see our lines, especially when there's no water running and the lure or bait is just sitting there motionless. That's why two-pound line catches more fish. Here's a Tip: When you catch a small rainbow and the hook is deep in its mouth, if your intention is to release it, simply hold the fish up by the line and cut the line close to the fish's mouth, letting it drop back in the water. DO NOT touch the fish, especially with a dry rag or hand. DO NOT carry it around out of the water. If you do, hold your breath the entire time because that's what the fish is doing. DO NOT try to dig the hook out of its mouth . . it will die. RELEASING A FISH YOU KNOW WILL DIE DUE TO BLEEDING AND/OR MISHANDLING IS CALLED "WANT AND WASTE" AND IS A VIOLATION OF THE WILDLIFE CODE. IT'S ALSO UNETHICAL. View full article
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With the cool down in our weather this past week, generation patterns had changed a bit on Lake Taneycomo. Dam operators were only running water in the afternoon for a couple of hours and then less than a full unit. And then the weather changed again. With warmer temperatures, they ran all four units on Wednesday late afternoon for three hours. That really was a good thing because it cleaned out the upper end of the lake of floating dead algae which has built up over the past week. What they are going to do now with generation is anyone's guess. Water temperature is holding at 49-50 degrees, up just slightly from a month ago. Water clarity is more than 12 feet, very clear, which is normal for this time of year. Trout fishing has been very good all summer. We've witnessed no periods of slow fishing, which we normally see at some point in the summer. The average size of rainbows stocked by the Missouri Department of Conservation has been very good, too. I'm going to run through the obvious techniques that are working right now, and have been working all summer. Of course, the number one choice is the pink Powerworm on a small jig head, two-pound line fished under a float five- to eight-feet deep. Also doing well is the a jig-and-float using a 1/100th-ounce jig, two-pound line under a float from four- to six-feet deep. Colors: Best is the sculpin or brown with an orange head, but other earth colors are working okay, such as black, olive and ginger. If you watch One Cast, you know the sculpin/ginger 1/32nd- or the 1/16th-ounce jig with a brown head, two-pound line is catching trout like crazy. The black/olive and plain sculpin are also producing, too, but not as much as the sculpin/ginger jig. If dam operators do start heavy generation again, go for big browns by throwing stick baits! If you didn't see Duane's article, read how throwing these "bass baits" can land you a trophy brown trout. Here's another article by Ryan Miloshewski. Fly fishing: Some say it's not a "fly," but the 1/100th-ounce jig under a float with a fly rod is a lot of fun. I've been taking advantage of the low water to fish with it. I found a lot of rainbows on the bluff channel side of the lake from Fall Creek's dock down to Short Creek Tuesday morning this week. They also took a #16 red Zebra Midge under a float five-feet deep using 6x tippet. No dry fly action to report, but a few people have ventured out at night to fly fish below the dam, wading and throwing leaches and streamers. Angler have also skated mice across the surface below the dam and below Lookout Island along the bluff down to Fall Creek. I've been fishing some in the trophy are below Lookout Island and doing okay on the Zebra Midge but better on the 1/100th-ounce brown jig with an orange head. Scuds are working fine. Try a brown or tan, #14 or #16 if the water is off and larger if the water is running. If you find a chop on the surface, strip an olive or brown wooly bugger, a 56'er, a crackleback or a soft hackle. Bait fishing off the dock has also been pretty consistently good this summer. Night crawlers have been good, but Powerbait has been a bit better with pink and orange the best colors. And an old favorite has made a comeback... Pautzsky's Balls of Fire salmon eggs are doing very well, plain and gold label with gold glitter. Again, two -pound line is best for catching more fish. I've mentioned a couple of things in my report that are important if you want to catch more trout. First, our water is very clear right now and, second, use two-pound line. Every year about this time, our water becomes gin clear and the trout can see our lines, especially when there's no water running and the lure or bait is just sitting there motionless. That's why two-pound line catches more fish. Here's a Tip: When you catch a small rainbow and the hook is deep in its mouth, if your intention is to release it, simply hold the fish up by the line and cut the line close to the fish's mouth, letting it drop back in the water. DO NOT touch the fish, especially with a dry rag or hand. DO NOT carry it around out of the water. If you do, hold your breath the entire time because that's what the fish is doing. DO NOT try to dig the hook out of its mouth . . it will die. RELEASING A FISH YOU KNOW WILL DIE DUE TO BLEEDING AND/OR MISHANDLING IS CALLED "WANT AND WASTE" AND IS A VIOLATION OF THE WILDLIFE CODE. IT'S ALSO UNETHICAL.
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“It was in harm’s way so I put it back in the water”
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That's Frank. And then there's Frankie too.
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Tame it down a bit... or I could say thanks for not saying what you really think. I've had my run-ins with Larry too.
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Tonight the water is still high at 7:40 so you'll be around the outlets till it starts dropping out. Have to warn you... I'm not an authority on fishing the outlets but scuds would be my guess. Try bigger scuds and then drop in size - from #12's and 14's to #20's and 22"s. If you want to catch the warm water fish, throw a big streamer at the cable when the water is dropping and after it's down. Lots of walleye and bass up there. Should be a trout mixed in too. May be someone else has an idea of others flies...
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Fly Fishing?
