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There is no way possible that anyone could have predicted the present development of Rogers back at that time. Where the Dixieland Mall and the Walmart is now was cow pasture and cornfields at the time, Bentonville ended north of 102; must be a kazillion acres of pavement causing runoff now that didn't exist then; but the majority of all that development drains west into the Osage Creek, along with all the treated sewage- so would have no effect on Beaver. Much of the development of Bentonville and Centerton also hit that Illinois R. drainage, with the rest going into the Elk R. I believe all of Springdale and almost all of Fayetteville drain west as well. My guess is development hasn't had major impact on Beaver. What has changed a lot over the last 60 years in the Elk drainage and so presumably in the White drainage as well, is the time it takes for rainfall to perk through the hills and become runoff. Numbers of small sink holes have developed where there were none and the bluffs are deteriorating, I have about a a dozen "wet weather springs" that did not exist 35 years ago and maybe 30 new sink holes, bluff over hangs that were dry enough for hay storage in the '60s drip now and are growing holes and hangdowns. Rain over 2'' perks out in about 1-2 hours. not just on my land either I see it all through the drainage. If the areas of the upper White have the same increase in through flow, that would have a major effect on how fast water gets to the pond.

I googled that and he was in a TV show back before REA came to this world with electricity. Growing up between not having electric here and when in Idaho being to far from a broadcast station, I never really saw any TV til after my hitch in the Navy and marriage. Never got the habit much either. I do know that Beaver is a fur bearer, often unseen.

It reads like propaganda. The whole article is based on not knowing how many millions of cases of SARS-Cov-2 have gone unreported, in prison environments where 100% tested had antibodies showing recovery from the virus, the death rate is ~ 0.5% vs influenza @ ~1%, of course the article points out that not all flu infections are reported but it doesn't point out that only those people near death report SARS-Cov-2. Millions of people who thought they had a cold or flu probably had covid19/SARS but just were not sick enough to go to a hospital.

That Murphy feller that made the "law" was an optimist too.

National debt was scary back in the '60s, but then Nixon declared that we would only have fiat money and within days the whole world followed, it has become apparent that imaginary money means imaginary debts. With no collateral, what is the payment in a foreclosure?

yes!! https://www.bing.com/search?q=making+masks+from+vacuum+cleaner+bags&pc=MOZI&form=MOZCON

Stuff that is on the web state prison in Ks, Almost 800 people tested positive for antibodies; 100% of prisoners and staff and 4 prisoners died. (I figure 0.5% deaths) in Ky one prison had 450 cases and ZERO death's (0.0% deaths) two Ca. federal prisons have had 823 infected inmates, two inmates have died from the virus. Most were asymptomatic. (0.25% deaths) state prison in Ohio, with at least 1,828 confirmed cases among inmates, 109 staff members were also positive. No COVID-19 deaths have been reported at the prison. (0.0% deaths) "Because we are testing everyone — including those who are not showing symptoms — we are getting positive test results on individuals who otherwise would have never been tested because they were asymptomatic," In ohio the prison system accounts for more than 20% of the state's cases. Santa Barbara County has 1,032 cases with about 80% being in the two federal prisons. Thirty-eight percent of Arkansas’ coronavirus cases are concentrated in a maximum-security prison, "Between Arkansas, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia, 3,277 inmates tested positive for the virus. Of that number, 96 percent of the inmates were asymptomatic, meaning they showed no symptoms associated with the disease." the U.S. has – over 2.3 million incarcerated persons more than any other country in the world Be interesting to know what percentage of each states infections are in prisons, because it appears that many of the "hotspots" are prisons and that if the prison numbers were subtracted that the general population is reporting almost no infections as compared to the numbers being waved around. It also appears that when all or most of a population is tested that the death rate is very small. Try to stay out of jail and we might survive this.

Guys, I think you're all educated enough to know that fashion masks and bandanas are not PPE. Using cloth against virus sized germs is like screening your porch against mosquitoes with chicken wire. Or using 4' mesh as a trout net. The holes are too big. Respirators N95, N99, or cartridge type are PPE. The only thing fashion masks/bandana/surgical masks/homemade masks protect you from is sticking your fingers in your mouth, and spitting on the sidewalk. I suspect that N95 needs to be discarded each time you take it off or twice daily or it will become a carrier rather than protection. A 'buff' might be like using a barbed wire fence against mosquitoes. It is good that people learn not to spit on the sidewalk but it is stupidity to call these things personal protection.

The salt guys will tell you reel with your dominate/strong hand. They believe you are so much better coordinated that way and that the hand strength makes big difference with big fish. Saw a long thread on the subject recently on another forum and every salt angler and guide on that forum said reel with the strong hand. I don't think it'd matter at all to me, either hand can reel, but then I never had a 100# fish on either.

Nothing. Well actually denial happens, but it doesn't matter. It only matters if the virus accepts you. We have zero say in the matter. We will all be exposed to it eventually either by nature or by injection. I just read that 25% of the people that died of Covid19 in England had diabetes, other common common comorbidities include dementia (18%), serious breathing problems (15%), chronic kidney disease (14%)," and ischaemic heart disease (10%)- that totals 82% of the Covid deaths that were on borrowed time before getting sick. makes the whole picture a little less bleak I think. When they get through testing for antibodies they may find that most people have already survived it, for sure the death rate will go way down when all the numbers are in. I do wish they'd put all those people back to work and school so I could go fishing, my favorite accesses are crowded every day to the point that I've not wet a line since the start of the panic. I'm contemplating going in the rain to avoid the crowds. Would go at night but water is still too high for me to be comfortable wading in the dark. I really shouldn't worry about that though, at this point in life everything I do is a risk, falling sure gets easier every day but getting back up doesn't.

Where is someone to get PPE? We had to go fetch some meds today from the WM pharmacy, got the curb service since we're both high risk, so had to wait about 15-20 minutes and watched dozens of all descriptions go and come from the store- lots had the fashion masks, including all the employees, but I did not see a single N95 type mask. Didn't see any gloves either.

My understanding is the Natives aren't willing to take a risk on you being pure and clean, airstrips closes to keep foreigners out, villages won't even let family members return from town if that's where they were at shutdown. Numbers of homeless in the cities increased because of those closures and strandings. In state air carriers gone bankrupt, I read, so once in AK a feller might find getting to the fish a problem.

dead fish are dead fish, where's the beef?

Average of 102 deaths per day. in USA from cars, but no quarantine panic there. Alcohol-related deaths 72,558 in 2017, but stores are still open. Drunks still go fishing, or at least they sit on the bank with a tackle box while drinking.

not a chance of that being true, everybody will get it in some form, maybe that 70% is estimated as knowing for sure that's what they had.

I would wear an N95 if they were readily available and affordable, or N99, but if you want protection from my spit stay back about 10' cause I can keep my digits outa my mouth without the bandana.

back in the '70s I knew Marines that weren't real proud of or happy with the Corp, kids today never get drafted into service but we did. Most every boy in my HS class served in one branch or the other. And we got spit on in airports by the same class of civilians that nowadays go around singing "thank you for your service"; if anyone wants to thank a veteran they should volunteer a hitch, and vote for politicians that aren't out to destroy the Constitution.

Masks to protect yourself are reserved to hospital and rescue type people, aren't they? A bandana type mask doesn't give you any self protection it only keeps you from spitting on others. But I think the real reason is because the guberment told everybody not wear masks for weeks on end before changing that to "it is Ok to wear masks". If I can't get a mask that will protect me, and I'm not sick, what would make me want to wear a bandana to make strangers feel more secure?

I went to boot in San Diego in 1970 and I don't remember much at all about it, except the airport just across the estuary taking people away from there and us washing clothes on the tarmac then tying them to the clothesline. I did four years active in the USN was PO2 for about half of that and didn't even know I had a MOS, so I couldn't give that to you, along with all the other carp I forgot about 1970 I don't even recall my service number and I haven't seen my DD214 in maybe 20 years. Was E6/PO1 in the reserves and still didn't know i had a MOS. 1970 was a long dang time ago and not everyone lives in their childhood forever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Marine_Regiment

Most of my flies are woolly worms of some variety like the crackle back or Griffith's gnat, stimulators look to me like woolly worms with a wing. An old favorite of mine was the Tom Nixon .56er another woolly variation. Plamered flies are one of the oldest patterns still popular. They can be fished wet or dry. head size, shape, color; number of tails, length of tails, body segmentation, length of legs might be places to look at, knowing month of year and time of day that a species hatches helps. ~45 years ago I bought books, checked books out of the library, took copious notes and made drawings of the books they wouldn't let me take home and cut up paper catalogs to get picture of the fly patterns that represented the various species and learned tons about the nymphal behavior of all the bugs common in the northeast, turned over a lot of rocks etc. Knowing all those things made me catch fish, but as time went by my tying time diminished and my hatch matching became fish three or four generic nymphs and two dry flies. In all those 45 years I personally have never encountered the mythical time and place where the hatch of one species was so terrific that nothing else worked. Caddis pupa and larvae are present in most streams always. Small chironomids are very common, in the warm months terrestrials are falling into the water often enough that any splash will draw a fish to look, foam beetles or ants tied simple are a good bet in daylight hours. Spend your study time on the under water forms of the insects rather than the airborne version, fish can't fly very well.

did it look like this? http://www.troutnut.com/specimen/682

You'd be in OK. in about 2 miles, find a map of Delaware County and locate road East 240 going west from Tiff City and about a mile west of the state line turn south on RD South 697 and the end of the road used to be at/near the mouth of Buffalo Creek, if you floated to Buffalo and turned up it you'd be very near the road end. You need to drive there and check it out because it was probably 25-30 years ago that I was in there. In a canoe it'd be easier I think to simply paddle back up from the state line and take out at the put in. I've never seen a kayak go upstream so I don't know if they can. This map and description might help you- https://missouricanoe.org/big-sugar-creek/ This link if it works will be an aerial view of the Elk-Buffalo junction about a mile west of the state line- https://www.bing.com/maps?q=36.63433%2c+-94.627891&FORM=HDRSC4 Didn't work, so after it loads, in the top right of the map hover "Roads" and drop down will let you change it to aerial.

Paste from MDC news letter-

Just as long as we recognize that they have an agenda. It is their platform to do with as they want, but because it is the public must remember that anything posted there must fit their political views.