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I get a smile out of the "unleaded" part. The ethanol mix is also "unleaded" as is the E80.

25 places in Springfield are listed, 5 in Branson, 3 in Branson West; I didn't think it was that hard to find anymore, lot's of places in this area sell the "premium" gas, no ethanol but more $$

No local caught fish are processed/sold locally, or just no catfish?

pick a state and pick a town

Didn't that also coincide with an influx of very cheap plastic kayaks? I don't recall seeing those hundreds of molded "boats" stacked up at Walmart and Academy and the tractor stores in prior years. <$200 some of them <$100 and it seems to me they were first available around that time, so I'm not sure if the biggest incentive was free time or cheap watercraft.

They did not. Probably never saw more than parts of a half dozen episodes of that, but I think based on those that one could trace the origins of our current political state to voters educated by it.

I can't really answer your question; I rarely use an indicator but if I do it might be - or Dorsey system Maybe give you more options.

I can read for hours, video about a minute and a half is my limit, it helps sometimes to play them on X2 but even then it's hard to stay focused on it. I'm not sure that I've actually learned anything at all from video. But, if those guys sat in boat for almost an hour just talking about it, any subject actually, I don't see how anyone could endure watching it. It'd be like 47 minutes of Rodney Dangerfield.

Really?? 47 minutes of video and no fishing? my goodness I'm glad I skipped that one.

On this page, pick a county and you will find contact numbers for all the MDC people responsible for that county. MDC Contacts As an example Taney County Chris Boyd Responsibility: Conservation Agent 417-546-0833 Southwest Regional Office 2630 N Mayfair Springfield, MO 65803 United States and Quenten Fronterhouse Responsibility: Conservation Agent 417-294-5543 Southwest Regional Office 2630 N Mayfair Springfield, MO 65803 United States Counties Assigned To: Taney

If I take it off, I stick them into the real sheep wool patch that's pinned to my vest and occasionally one will fall off, perhaps one in fifty. I've also hooked them into the loop side of Velcro. The key word in 'hooked', not just point stuck, but turned into the bend. An alternative would be to drop them into an Altoids tin half full of silica gel until you get home and sort things out. But then, I will agree somewhat in that any fly you take off while fishing may as well be thrown away, because it obviously doesn't work for what ever reason. And truth is that when I take those dried out flies off that sheep wool, 2/3 of them go in the recycle cup for hook salvage in the future. Most of my dry flies only need a squeeze with the chamois leather to float again, if they are still usable and if they worked in the first place. But, on the other hand, they do catch fish when sunk too.

The thread does not say barbless above fall creek and it does not say " single point" the thread starter said "single hook only". Under that heading all the hooks could be fully barbed trebles as long as only one hook is used. He isn't presenting any evidence that using a single hook would have any benefit over using three hooks as pole line fishing allows state wide. Kinda an emotional appeal thing to ban fishing there. And we know that they are not enforcing current regulations so any added regulations would just amount to a BS line on a sign that no one reads. Studies have shown that in controlled tests neither barbs nor trebles add significantly to the overall mortality rate. We should not make regulations based on emotions, nor on anecdotal evidence found in bull chip fish stories. If you want to say trebles hurt the fish, then you must also admit that any hook hurts the fish and we should regulate for no hooks to be used. Maybe someone will write a petition for all lures used above Fall Creek to be hookless? They could quote the studies showing that barbless hooks have essentially the same mortality that barbed hooks do and then quote all the anti barb anglers to show that even anglers think hooks should be banned. same thing with single-point hooks and multi-point hooks, if you oppose one; by inference you are opposing the other, based on the science. My argument is that none of the hooks causes significant harm to any of the fish. You can claim that trebles hurt anglers or that barbed hooks are harder to remove from children and I'll agree, but I won't agree that we need to ban hooks.

Yes I can often release trout by simply slacking the line as they get into shallow water and renew the fight. And when they don't self release a slight push with the release tool does the trick. I rarely carry a net, unless I'm keeping fish. However that still is not science to support a barbless regulation.

Doesn't matter what the regs are, you can't be serious about enforcing them? It's an honor system, always has been. Total enforcement would probably require equal numbers of anglers and officers; think of the cost. Be good for the economy though, to employ that many new Agents.

@netboyThat is primarily why I mash barbs, or buy barbless, they come out of me so much easier. It can make releasing fish easier too, but I don't think it helps with mortality and I don't think it should be a regulation.

I don't think the science supports barbless hooks over barbed hooks either, and that has been studied a bunch. I do "debarb" most (there's always 1 or 2 that slip by) hooks when tying flies, but I would not bet that all or even most of the hooks with mashed down barbs would pass a stocking or cotton ball test. Nearly all hooks that I've mashed or broken barbs on required filing to insure they wouldn't grab a fiber. Several summaries of studies that I've seen on barbed vs barbless all say "no statistically significant differences in hooking mortality"

What science justifies single point hooks on flies and trebles on literally any thing else? Most regulations start with someone's desire and find science to justify it.

Single hooks would include treble hooks. Single hook means one hook it does not limit the number of points. Currently in "pole and line" fishing we are allowed three hooks and that can be as many points as you want, actually it may even be more than three hooks because the definition of "hook" says " A multiple-pronged hook or two (2) or more hooks employed to hold a single bait, shall be considered a single hook in counting the allowable total in use." However with flies we can only use single point hooks, so I'm fine with extending that rule to lures and baits. You could then have three single point hooks per lure or three lures each with a single point. And science had nothing to do with restricting flies to single point hooks either. Very few fish and game regulations have scientific foundations.

Single hook? or single point hook? I would rather people use three single point hooks than to see them use a single treble hook. I would have no objection to single point hooks statewide for all species. But agree that until enforcement catches up, all regulations are useless. I'll also say that place or species specific regulations are more difficult to apply than general statewide regulations. The more specific the area the less apt people are to comply, they will just say "oh I don't know where Fall Creek is from here". Make the regulation fit the entire lake or the entire river or all trout water and the confusion is removed.

I prefer zero back casting space and ample shade. Actually I try not to wade at all if the stream is less than 50' wide. Of course sometimes wading is necessary for positioning, but back casting space is only rarely needed, like when slinging a spoon. Most (all that I recall) of Bennett seems way too mowed, manicured and paved. Even noticed there are slanted ditches for the waders to enter the stream without having to get down off a bank. Years ago I wondered if those were dug or just worn in. Last time I was there I saw they are still being used.

Busting my butt or falling isn't a good enough reason to go back there either. Although I'm sure that I will one day, if I'm nearby for some other reason. But, I would have no idea which section you call the hole. My usual approach is to find a section with the fewest number of cars .... But, in my view it hasn't changed that much over the past forty years as a destination. Which was the point of my post. You watch it the changes happen and it makes you aware of small differences that I would not notice.

I doubt that I saw all it the handful of times that I was there, but, I recall a lot of parking lot and not many shaded stretches. I don't recall any riffles or pockets, but if you say they are there, I'll take your word for it. But, the first time I fished it was ~40 years ago and the last time was the past spring; and in my mind it's just chitty now as it was then, and just as good. No doubt a good class room and anyone at all should be able to find a fish, but it has zero aesthetic attraction. It puts to lie the old saw about trout living in beautiful places. If it was less than an hour away I'm sure I'd fish it often, just because the parking lots make for easy access, but ~200 miles make a "destination", and there are probably fifty or more places between here and there that I'd rather fly fish. Nearly all of them with less macadam and more trees. I'm really more of a small stream type.

It reminds me a lot of fishing in a mall parking lot. Wouldn't make any difference if every other cast hooked an eight pound trout, it wouldn't be highly desirable as a destination. But then all destinations become overcrowded and worn out simply because they are destinations.

Sure they have speckled trout and gray trout, both drum, btw. But apparently there is a doctor in the Tallahassee area that stocks his pond each winter with rainbow, there are a couple of YouTube videos of it that I stumbled on. The hand made sign in the vid said fly fishing only, may keep one fish, 25$ per person. No contact info was given but I imagine it's out there if one wanted to find it.

Nobody needs FFS, not anywhere. For that matter no one needs any kind of electronics, all a matter of wanting to have a crutch.