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Oh, I know the story and when they made the ban it was a good decision based on the information available, the fault is that when the biologists came back with contrary information proving the first wrong that the bureaucrats did not believe the biologists and undo the ban- people in power that don't understand or believe in science. Rather like the current mask debacle.

The fear is not unfounded when whole families die isolated from each other by quarantine. The control has been in place for decades and is called fiat money, Most of the wealth in this country is based on imagination that our money is real. Try this, hold any kind of mask/shield/object close in front of your face and spit through it onto a table, then wipe your hand on the table; there won't be any spit there- now spit on the table without masking your mouth and wipe your hand across the spit on the table and notice how much spit gets on your hand. A sneeze or cough expels drops of spit at great force that can aerosolized into small enough droplets that they can suspend in the air breathed around the edges of the mask. Or more commonly fall onto a surface and picked by the hands.

banish the ban, snot is native and nothing they can do about it

Al, if the corp does own the land the lake is built on, does that not just make them a landowner in the state and thus subject to the state laws? Or would they be exempt from state laws and all crimes committed on Corp property be Federal crimes? that's a thought I hadn't considered.

As a long time fly only fisher, I don't even know what makes a plug or lure into a swim bait, but the question of color is always bandied around and while I agree with @Ketchup that the key is location (and that applies year 'round); fish in a pond move around as the conditions of the pond change, they have comfort temperatures that they seek and they also follow prey that moves to comfort zones or change food sources with the seasons. So the first three considerations are always location, location and location; but one factor of location is depth and colors lose visibility at depth, with red fading first and blue being most visible at depth. So given a depth of 30' your greens, blues and violets will be more visible than your reds and yellows. If the water is discolored, light is low or the surface is disturbed by wind the depths are all reduced, so that in some under some conditions red for example might fade at 10' rather than 25'. Blue fades quickly in discolored though, so green is a better choice then. The other aspect of the "does color matter" question is what fish can see color and do they see it the same way we do? Some fish do see color in good light and some don't; but if we assume that our target fish sees color just like we do, we can adjust the color according to light conditions and the depth we are fishing. At night (or any extreme low light condition) fish can't see color at all just as we can't, so... Personally I think that contrast is more important than shading, so something grayish at or near the surface and increasing darkness as depth increases. It's also useful to have contrasting colors on the lure so that the fish has that contrast as well as the contrast with the water.

I have read a long time ago that under Federal laws Mo. has three navigable rivers, the Mississippi, the Missouri and the Grand. I don't recall all the case law but the gist is that these determinations were made at or before statehood. Our other streams may be designated "public thoroughfares" based on historical commercial use or other factors. I think all cases stemming from this event would be in Missouri jurisdiction, unless a state line was crossed? That doesn't mean they can't bring charges and hold hearings and dismiss a hundred times just to keep the dockets full and lawyers making fees.

She's 16 years past due already "three score and ten"...

Wearing the mask would not have kept him safe. Period. You wear the mask for other people. He and she got sick from exposure because some one else didn't wear the mask. Keep washing them hands they are the main way to get any virus.

Memory can add to even the ones released or eaten. Or in my case only recall that many have put a bend in my fly rod and a smile on my face, I weighed one or three over 4# but don't recall exactly and I measured several over 18" but .. . I also caught a few that were ~5" and watched a pony-tailed heron eat what looked like a 17"er. I hope my personal best is the next one I catch. It will at least be fresh in the memory.

Not adept with a camera even when I think to put it in the car. It was funny kinda though because the son from Florida had just asked me if they ever spawned and I had told him I didn't think were ever successful and could not recall if they were fall or spring spawners. Not sure when I'll get over there again either, I'm a mid week fisher and a fair weather fisher and the Park is only open weekends, idk why.

Saw a pair on a nest in RRSP last Monday, they were both busy chasing and were badly out numbered.

gorilla glue

You guys did a lot better than I usually do on that creek. Was raining enough here that I stayed in. 9am is a little early for me anyway, after a late night with out of state company.

It's not being petty. Words have meanings which anyone can easily find in any dictionary, I think most reporters are functional illiterates; grammar used in the media is often wrong, spelling is worse than mine and homophones used improperly.

hey, it's been years and years since I saw you over there good to know you're still at it- it was you? People like Brooks and Harvey would say there need to be 5 or 15 more pieces of differing sizes in there, Whitlock uses 8-9 Just for fun - https://macbrownflyfish.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/leader-formulas.pdf

Used to see an old guy fishing Z2 RRSP with weighted egg-balls and nymphs, that simply used ~30" of 4X loop to loop to the fly line and he caught as many trout as anyone. The line acted as indicator and suspension device, no knots in leader except the surgeon loop to the line which was also a surgeon loop. No kinks either.

Perhaps you can simplify your recipe, 3 or 4 knots should make a 7'-9' leader, I never found an extruded leader that suited me and after modification had knots anyway. I believe knots to be beneficial in stiffening and adding weight to the leader; but jmo. If you use Borger's style with ring, there's one knot plus the ring between the line and the tippet. Gary goes with a smaller butt than I do, he uses .013", I believe his rule is 30% diameter drop from line to butt and 30% diameter drop at each transition- something like 4' of .013 + 1' of .009 + ring + tippet

Let's stay with visible stuff nowadays , say #14 Renegades or Royal Wulffs.

"The Complete Book of Fly Fishing" was my first book on the subject and I almost memorized it at the time, it and ""Art of Tying the Wet Fly & Fishing the Flymph" have been strong influences on my lifestyle ever since, of course Tom Nixon modified some of Brooks' notions for me. I still refer to those three fairly often- good books may the best investment of our lives.

Still water midges 22-24, 1/2# test tippet, roll cast- but it was a Joe Brooks design that I copied and I was 4-5 decades younger then than mow. I don't think there is any place in Mo. comparable to the kettle ponds back east. Brooks had unnecessarily complicated leaders with compound tapers.

I tie my own leaders so they can be almost any length and taper. Typically about the length of the rod and 5X for trout and about 6' long and 1X for smb. If I were buying extruded leaders, for trout; I'd start with 9'-3X and cut about 18" off the butt end to reduce the diameter to about 0,017" -0.0018" and then tie about 30" of 5X Powerflex on as tippet. For bass I could use this and cut it back to the 1X and tie in a 1X extension as tippet although that be longer than I prefer. In still water I've used up to about 16'-9X for trout, which almost has to be handcrafted. Several whole books have been written about leadercraft and construction, so it's not a really simple subject, but, it doesn't have to overly complicated either, I think every one should roll their own for better and cheaper fishing.

but one wonders what is worse the disease or the cure

I might be a spectator at that event, depending fees and seating, but I'd have to pass on that vaccine.

can we outnumber them?