Very hesitant to respond to this topic. That being said, I don't feel that there is only one way to fish. I love catching fish period. If I can use lures etc (the only way apparently, according to smalliebgs ) then I will use them. But I have and will continue to use live bait in many circumstances. Caught many very large largemouth and smallmouth floating an extra large minnow near their hangouts. Last Wed, I used an unnamed bait on an unnamed river and caught 10 browns and 1 rainbow from 12-16" in a short time, and 1 12 " smallmouth plus an assortment of suckers. ALL fish were hooked in the mouth. And I didn't use circle hooks (which I believe are great for cats but not so much on other fish (for me)). I don't knock fly fishermen for their prefered method of fishing. Yes, I fly fish some too. But to knock anyone for using what they enjoy,whatever that may be, to me is not cool. BTW, I have some of the Case hellgrammites in a couple of colors and sizes. (whoever was looking for them shoot me a PM and I'll throw them in the mail for ya). And good fishing to all,