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Jeff, you are in the right place and your boys will remember everythig. Welcome to our family.

Smalliebigs, I am sure your children will have the best. Most of my students do not have an involved parent. This thread discusses matters important to them as well as to your children. BTW, I posted about fishing with pictures yesterday. Did you? Many years ago my wife and I had a friend in Tulsa. Vicky Williams was single and blunt. She told us most guys were just people with ears. She did not use the word people.

Oddly, I think we are saying the same thing but from slightly different places. I agree with the need for rigor, thus I support Common COre as it gives an opportunity to change how things have been done the last several decades. You are leary of Common Core as it does not directly address what you see as the failings of education in the last several decades.

I learned the masking tape trick before they came out with the carbon spacers. Provided you applly sufficient epoxy, the bond is incrediablly strong and sensitive. BTW, the other thing I used that Tenn handle rod to do was slider fish like Charlie Brewer wrote about - a method very similar to the Ned.

F&F, you are absolutely right. The answer must be what it is. Common Core is not about changing the answers. Instead it is about changing how we teach to insist upon mastery of skills and the ability to relate one skill to another. An example would be to require an employee to evaluate three products that produce something, but in different ways with different stocking requirements, to determine which product will be the most productive to your company. And then present that conclusion in written memo form for circulation to the comapany board. By the way, my wife teaches math at the high school here. Nancy teaches AP Statistics, AP Calculus, Algebra II, and PreCalc. It will change what every math teacher in front of her must do. Her review of the standards tells her it will put pressure on the teachers to assure certain skills are mastered earlier than previously.

Yes I am going Tenn style. I will build arbors with epoxy saturated masking tape. I am with Ned on the shorter rod. I once owned a Falcon Tenn handle spinning rod in a 6 foot length. I used it to fish big trout on the White below Bull Shoals. If it still existed I would drag it out to fish the Ned. It met an untimely demise some years ago. What I will build will hopefully be like that old rod.

Justin, I do see benefits to come for the children. It may well kill those of us who teach - we are being asked to change how we do things and to discard old lesson plans (some of which were very good) for a different approach. It may also be hard on parents like you who care. If I may, one small example that sums up the differences and the effect it has on students that started out with the other system. My first unit for 7th grade this year was reading for understanding and how to learn by taking notes. I started with a simple suggestion of an order to follow with new text. Then I set them to taking notes from that text. Within a class of 26 I had a core of 6 or 7 want to please teacher/hard workers. Before even reading the text, one of them asked how I wanted them to take those notes. She was not happy with my answer -> so that you can look at them and remember what is important. I added that good notes had abbreviated information about the ideas, reasons, and descriptions. Another asked how brief. Again my answer did not sit well -> as brief as you can and still remember everything important. Their first attempts amounted to rewriting the text in their journals and when I graded them the comments I wrote about "too long" caused them to erupt in protest. I then showed them a classic three column notes format, a bullets concept, and what I actually developed for my own use through college and law school (it involves symbols, arrows, single words, and drawings). One of them asked which one I wanted them to use. When I said none of them, the little girl cried. I tried to explain she should develop her own method that worked for her she cried harder. My principal received a call the next morning from the parent about my refusing to teach her child. I met with the mother and tried to explain both the concept and the goals. From my viewpoint, it would have been easier to teach the Letter and Roman numeral system I was taught in school by the priests, but under Common Core we want to get to the goal without requiring conformity to a preconceived sense of "the right way."

One of the ads that come with Phil's forums concerns Common Core. It alludes to the PARCC Assessment and Common Core as being implemented without your consent. I tracked the ad and read the material. Because I teach, and because I follow Arkansas Department of Education directives, I would like to comment on Common Core, the PARCC assessment, and related matters. First, Common Core and the PARCC assessment were not implemented without your consent. Common Core is a concept for education developed by education experts working in conjunction with science, business, and university experts. At its heart, the system recognizes that there are different ways to learn and different ways to do things. Teaching kids to memorize and answer questions from that memory is only one way to learn and arguably the least effective. Other children need visual or tactile tools in order to learn and master subject material. Common Core concepts try to eliminate any "only one right way" to learn anything or do anything. It is the opposite of teachers reading from a script, making the students read a passage, and then complete worksheets. For two years now, I have been working to implement Common Core principals in what I do in the class room. The result is way more wortk for me as I must adjust the lesson activities (not the goal) to fit the students abilities and show more than one method to reach the goals. The result for the students is the have better opportunities to master the material. The word master is key to the Common Core concepts. The cirriculum planning inherent to Common Core depends upon the student mastering concepts, intellectual tools, and methods before proceeding to the next step. You master math facts before you learn place value and set theory and so on. You learn to write complete sentences before you learn the topic sentence/reason/evidence/reason/evidence/reason/evidence/conclusion paragraph. One parent diatribe video I have seen includes a rant about how a common core teacher is teaching children 127 step process to do simple division. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Common core teaching is more about student learning than teaching a step by step method. Another common slam is the Common Core will standardize education by lowering the standards. I teach 7th and 8th grade English and Social Studies. I have a better than average education and many years of experience writing and reading. I compared the existing Arkansas literacy standards to the Common Core standards on an item by item basis. Uniformly, the Common Core standards for reading and writing are far more rigorous than those in place before. After Common Core was developed, many states saw the wisdom and chose to implement the concepts and the proposed cirriculums that went with them. 45 states in all have enacted the Common Core. That caused a second stage. How were the states to determine if the students could meet the standards? By implication, that testing would also determine the efficacy of the teaching by people like me. The states decided that every state for itself testing would be incredibly expensive and cumbersome to develop. The states joined groups that then developed testing materials for all the states in the group. PARCC is one of those groups. 17 states with more than 20 million students are included in the group. The cost per test is substantially smaller in this way, and the comparison of relative performance far more accurate. Some materials on the internet and on "news" clips would have you believe that PARCC and the other groups have an agenda, are controlled by some conspiring group or another, or want to change your children. Others equate the changes to some plot to eliminate God or some socialist revolution led by Obama. Quite frankly, much of what I have read is fueled by fear, hatred, ignorance, and by groups who do have an agenda - taking advantage of that fear and ignorance. So, before you buy into some of the things advertised or on the web take the time to educaate yourself. As a starter, here is a link to a site that presents arguments in favor of and opposed to Common Core. http://blamecommoncore.com/

DC, the numbers 5,7,9 refer to the length. They weigh about the same as the comparable length shad raps they were designed to steal market from. That means spinning gear for throwing unless you have a 9 or a casting rod specially set up for light work. I primarily use them for trolling and they are outstanding for that use. Better still, they come with a dive curve for trolling depth right in the box.

Phil, you know from what I have written in the past, I believe in finding inexpensive baits that work. However, I must admit I often change out hooks, tie feathers, and dab paint to personalize some baits. Berkley, Storm, and Norman all are winners on the cost of baits versus fish caught scale.

4/5 and 4/6, 105 pros will be fishing out of the KC area. Many of them will run more than 5 miles, but on those two days you may have to take a ticket to fish points. Fortunately, they will be gone after the weekend. Honestly, I would make Saturday an explore day and take a map and grease pencil to mark all the places the wrapped boats fish. Sunday, after a nice brunch, go to the weigh in to hear the pros lie about what they used. Come Monday get serious. Quillback has been catching on tubes, the Ned rig has caught several, I had a good day yesterday on a brown wart, pbj jigs should find some fish and try swimming a smoke grub on a plain jig just barely off the bottom. Good luck.

Bats and Rats! I had the parts and costs laid out in a table!

I fished the Ned rig for several hours yesterday and the day before. My only spinning rod/reel (I am a hardcore casting reel type) really stunk up the place while trying to throw the Ned. Rereading this thread and that experience triggered me into action. I just made this order from Mudhole: BSV3XG-20 1 Pacific Bay Black Spin/Cast Guide BSV3XG 20MM 1.63 BSV3XG-10 1 Pacific Bay Black Spin/Cast Guide BSV3XG 10MM 0.88 BSV3XG-6 1 Pacific Bay Black Spin/Cast Guide BSV3XG 06MM 0.73 BSV3XG-4 5 Pacific Bay Black Micro Guide BSV3XG 04MM 0.70 BFM3XT-4-5 1 Pacific Bay Black Micro Top BFM3XT #4(5) 1.69 TXT12-980-R 1 Texalium Tubing 12" - .980 ID/Red 21.98 GH-950 BC 1 EVA Butt Cap for 0.980 Texalium Tubes 2.95 GH-980 TR 1 Trim/Winding Check for 0.980 Texalium Tubes 1.25 CS722-MHX 1 MHX Cast/Spin 6'0" 1pc. 6-12lb B0.452 T5 Slate 44.00 AJ454-B 1 PAC BAY SINGLE FOOT FLAT WIRE HOOK KEEPER BLACK 0.60 TMO-4 1 Thread Master ONE - One-Part Rod Finish - 4oz kit 11.40 RNS-A-749 1 ProWrap Nylon 100yd Size A - 749 Brown 2.55 With shipping the total was 116.43. Based on past experience with MHX blanks and home made rods, I expect the result to fish like something that costs 200 to 300 dollars. Do note that if you used less expensive parts (I splurged with the tube for a Tennessee handle) and waited for a free shipping event, the total cost would plunge below $100.

I buy the "original series" warts in large lots when they are on sale. The more modern warts Normark introduced were/are terrible, but once they went back to the old style molded halves they work just fine. I don't really know if the difference between the "original series" and the pre-Normark warts is in the bait or in the fisherman's mind. Doesn't really matter, does it.

solid white, blue tiger, fire tiger

The place where I had the old orange disc on the boat motor needs a #C. I already have one for the truck.

I was moving the wart way slow and fishing water where it barely hit bottom. Only one fish was a strike. The others just showed up.

Yes Bill, I had to be very careful unhooking to avoid injuring.

I hope your mother, when it is time, passes as easily as mine. That was a blessing.

Because of the 20 days lost to snow, our school district trimmed my Spring Break to two days. Today was one of them and I fished from HI to Stubblefield Branch. Actually I fished yesterday as well and caught three small fish. Two came on a Ned rig and one took a wart. Today was better. I caught 8 today in 5 hours of fishing. One took a creature on a jikka rig. The Ned rig struck out. The other seven, including 4 keeper fish, bit a bubblegum trick worm rigged wacky style. I lost a fifth keeper when it came unbuttoned while I was fussing with the net. I may be the best net man ever for other people's fish, but when it comes to my fish, I suck at netting.

I bought a copy of the book in the 70's. Much of it was devoted to raising/keeping/transporting crawlers. The balance of the book is Buck Perry structure and finesse fishing oriented. I found it well worth the money and I wish I had kept my copy.

River Dog, you stumped me. I cannot even find a 5' rod in anything other than UL. If you want to stick to that as the max length, I'm pretty sure you would have to make it yourself or have it made. I would use the MHX CS722 blank from Mudhole and take the foot off the butt end. Just a suggestion.

I fully expect to see one or two. I am just gratefull it will not be 108.

Good. Everything is scheduled down lake and good riddance. We are unlikely to see any competitors up here and I couldn't be happier.

You just go ahead and talk that way. I know it makes you feel manly. When you land one that weighs the same or more than your line test, come back and we will visit.