Chief Grey Bear

I did hear Leo Holtz say a few days ago, "Its time Missouri got some respect." And yeah its funny all I heard is that Mizzou hasn't beat a team with a winning record this year. Well, first that if false. You only have to go back as far as last Friday. Arkansas came into Columbia with a winning record. They didn't leave with one though. And so lets look at those two loosers, The Gators and the Gamecocks. So those two teams beat the Dawgs but you don't hear about them being sub 500 teams. Its only when we beat them, which was before Georgia lost to them that they became loosers. Yeah just keep calling the Tigers loosers and keep looking down your nose at them. But don't get your panties and bras in a wad when I throw it back in your face.

Wasn't singling you out. Its in all forms of media, not just here.

Yeah KC that is just stupid. Arkansas is a SEC powerhouse. They even won a national championship 50 years ago (30years before jumping to the SEC) by smoking Nebraska by a field goal! Mizzou has no bussiness even being in the SEC. (funny nobody says that about Texas A&M that I have heard)(but that could be because they haven't been a threat to the status quo yet) So lets take a quick scan at the over all records of the dominate Arkansas team that will always be going to a bowl or championship game and the looser Tigers that don't really beat any team on their own. AR All time record 688–469–40 (.591) Bowl Record 13–23–3 (.372) Confrence Titles 13 Division Titles 0 (I didn't find any) Mizzou 642–534–53 (.544) Bowl Record 14–16 (.467) Confrence titles 15 Division Titles 5 (3 Big 12 North and 2 SEC East) From what I could find, Mizzou has a 4-2 (.667)record playing Arkansas and a 2-2 (.500) against Bama. And the Tigers haven't hired any big named or ex-NFL coaches. In looking at reported Arkansas rivalries, three of them, this is how they stand. LSU 21-36-2 for a 35.6% win percentage Texas 21-56 for a 21.6% " Texas A&M 41-27 for a 57.7% " I'd say the Tigers are severly out classed.

I love reading all the excuses of why a team lost to Mizzou, never that Mizzou beat a team.

Jolly Mill on Capp's Creek. I think they meet at the lower access parking lot. It really is a good time if you can make it.

Oh heck Ollie, he won't catch any until after you leave anyway. *wink wink*

Best post of the whole thread.

On rivers that have been negatively impacted by dams, I would agree with their removal. I agree with Al that I would love to have been able to float the White River. But I can't say that the fishery has necessarily been impacted in a negative way. You could probably make the argument that the dams have actually made a positive impact to the fishery. Let's not forget that Jim Owens was a newspaper writer. It was his job to romance the Ozarks to sell his service. And he did a fascinating job of it obviously. In talking with the old rivermen over the years that got to float the White before the dams, they loved fishing the White but they didn't seem to hold it in as high esteem as Jim did. But again, they weren't selling it out either. Jim did such a great job of that even the railroad promoted the area in their brochures. Jim made a great living from river. Rumors still circle around that he was instrumental in the building of T-Rock and secretly bought a lot of land that eventually became the lake. Jim was a super business man and I think he is responsible for putting that area on the map and making it what it is today.

That's on the Sunday after Thanksgiving. If you are still in the area you should hit it!

Keep me posted.

You headed that way?

And that is just fine with me. We have enough people on the rivers!

Does he live on the high side of the creek where the road fords the creek?

I prefer it below the park. Too many crazies inside. Just park out of the way and have yourself a ball. I haven't hit it in a couple of years but I kinda have the itch too.

Hey You ever grow any celery? I never really thought about doing it but just read a little blurb about and it got me to thinking.

Yeah ask him. Since most does usually give birth to twins, in two days they would be gone. So he probably shouldn't have any deer with-in the county. Coyotes don't pass up anything. Hell I think it is only us humans that will pass on food thinking we'll get something better later. But look at the size of us. I think we could stand to miss a meal now and then. I just can't get myself to it! Ha!! Looks like the Chiefs and the Rams got it done today. The Tigers did it last night and now we'll see what the B-Ball Tigers can do. I think they play around 4-4:30????

Great pics. One thing I noticed is the area of the hook set. I'm not sure I have ever hooked one where you did that one. Mine are always in the corner of the mouth. And most always on the right corner. Great job!

Bring up anything you would like. Never did I say that coyotes were not predatores of deer. I did state that they have not been associated with any deaths with the operation where I live and they do to. I read every link you posted and none of them came close to aligning with your statement of killing one fawn per day. The closest any came was: In fact when you read the whole thing, he pretty much states coyotes really don't have much effect on deer populations. Thanks for digging those up. I hope other here read them too.

Ehhhh I ain't buying the fawn a day bit. Show me any study that states that. If that were to be the case, the population would not be anywhere near what it is. I also live on a current 300 head cow/calf operation, though I am not involved with it, and we have coyotes. In the decade I have been here, not one calf has been lost to a coyote. I also have free range chickens and again, I have not lost one chicken to a coyote. I have lost them to possums, vehicles and roaming dogs. You are right though, there is a fine balance in nautre. And she is far better at keeping the balance than humans are. She was doing a fine job until we came along and fixed it.

Why are you working so hard to sell us on it? Obviously no one here is hip on importing live speciems to the Ozarks. Do you think if you some how convert us to your side then the MDC will lift the ban for you?

Since we got womped by GA and they beat Auburn last night, we had to win our last three to win the East. We beat A&M and must contiune that streak with the next two games. If we beat Tenn., the AR game will be very important!! If we loose to Tenn, not so much.

Who's victory over GA?? Mizzou has to win the next two games to stay atop the East.

But what?

Yeah I saw that. What's this gay fetish you two have?? Care Bears, Rainbow Bears??? Sure you two have the right forum??

Took you along time to come to his rescue.