Bill Babler
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Thank you all for your comments, this was entirely OFF TOPIC. i just felt pretty low getting her that bad review and really I just said I had a problem, never did I go into the naritive that I just gave you all. Hard for me to do but letting people think I'm stupid by keeping my mouth shut is way better than talking and then, knowing for sure. Have a great one and lets get back to chasing those Fishes.
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That has got to be a first❤️
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Thanks Mike, but that is not the way it works. She is going to issue a rebuttal on google, facebook, twitter, bedandbreakfast.com , travelosity, and trip advisor. He pretty much trashed her on every travel site he could find 6 months after their one nite stay. He used a different online name on every site. Again totally my fault.
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Appreciate it guys, and here is the deal. I approached the show owners at St. Louis and they said if the union guys totally destroyed my equipment and my mounts there was not a thing they could do about it. I should make sure to buy insurance. At St. Louis you are not allowed to unload your booth or assemble it. Mine was totally trashed and I saw the guys throwing $750.00 fish mounts to each other. I took 15 mounts and 12 were damaged in the process and I was totally helpless to do a thing about it, as were the people that run the show without pickets and problems. My son does extremely sensitive EPA testing as he is a Chemical Engineer/Environmental Engineer. The non-union plants they work usually take about 2 days depending on the amount of testing and sampling they have to do. The union plants take 5 to 7 days and cost as much at 5 times more. He was in Oregon last year working a huge hydro power complex that used both water and coal. Non-union. This testing is over a Thousand an hour and they had a group of guys standing in line volunteering to assist Steve to hold cost down, everyone saying." This is our company." Not going into name calling but he has also worked Eastern US union plants and the worker' say, "How much you going to pay me, and stick the company for the bill." It is not up to me to say what is right and what is wrong, but in life there is a right and wrong way to do things. After my 8 yrs. on the State Patrol I determined that I wanted to make my own living depending on no one else, and for sure not depending on anyone else to make or not make my livelyhood. I just did not want to depend on anyone else. Lots of people want to be taken care of. I always figured I signed on to do a job for a certain amount of compensation and that is that. I didn't have to do it I did it willingly. If the guy that owns the company, borrows the money takes the risks and devotes his life to it and is willing to give me a job that I agree to, that is pretty much that. Something changes hostalavista baby, I don't fuss about it. Regardless my mouth got Becky in trouble.
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Becky would have over a thousand 5 star reviews if I would just keep my mouth shut. It is a shame the way this country is, if someone can hurt you they will try as hard as they can to do so. She got a 2 and 3 star review on all the major sites cause I would not let some A-hole push me around. Dig this. Last December 23rd. a guy and his wife booked for ONE NIGHT and we usually never take one nites at the lodge but she did as they seemed to be in a bind, so she said sure come on out. Of course it was political. Guy asked me how much money I made guiding and how much money we made at the Lodge. "always a question." I said we are doing fine. At that time Trump had made a stupid tweet, as usual, and the guy mentioned it and made the statement that he needed to be impeached immediately and that democratic party and the unions had made the United States and we needed to get rid of all of the republicans. I made the mistake of saying that I didn't totally agree with that. He said "really." I said my son and I both have never had great releationships with unions bearing in mind that my father was a union truck driver, my mother was a union textile employee, my brother was a union mail carrier and my sister and her husband were in the Iron workers union. As the very short conversation progressed under 10 minutes he asked why I had problems with unions, and I said I had problems at sports show with mishandled merchandise and untimely work being done in a timely and without breakage fashion. My son a Chemical Engineer had problems with union workers just not wanting to be there and costing their companies huge sums of money on his visits. Where non-union companies did not encounter the same problems. Right or wrong, I don't know. At any rate 6 months after our conversation this guy is posting on multiple sites reviews that we are anti-union and that no union workers should ever go to the lodge. This is 6 months later, and he is posing under assumed names cause I did not agree with his politics. He has posted on 5 travel sites each under a different name. I know I'm old, but I just cannot understand this. It is almost to the point that I will have no interaction with our guests and what a shame that is. if I don't totally agree with every opinion they have we might get a bad review. Rant Over.
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Wow, that a Peach.
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Fished Big Creek on 6/20 and 6/24...
Bill Babler replied to Steve McBasser's topic in Table Rock Lake
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I pretty much think he is thinking about a fish fry and on the bass deal, lets not go that way. There are some bass out there in the 30 to 45 ft. range, but lets not be killing them.
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On the Rock the shad have been on the bottom in the 30 to 40 ft. range. I don't know how much upward they are moving, but the topwater bite for me has all but ended unless I get super lucky. I can just see shad layered at that depth most days, with a few suspended, but most are bottom hugging. That big scud and a peach egg are going to be the deal.
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Yes the cast net can work under a light around the docks. The trouble is the shad have moved deep and are pretty much not on the surface. Not saying it can't happen but tough right now. Another deal is you can have the kids turn over rocks on the shoreline just under the edge of the water and catch a bucket of crayfish. You can also buy a cheap crayfish trap and put bluegill parts in it off the deep end of the dock or in the deeper stalls. You should catch some Golly Whoppers that are good to eat and use the smaller ones to bait the lines. Indian Point is the dam. The dam area on here is classified from point 2 up Long Creek to Point 5 on the White and Indian Point is right in the middle. I"m not trying to dissuade you but crappie fishing for anyone but the locals with a dock usually a big 20 slipper and they fish in a stall in the middle at times, is pretty much non-existant on Table Rock, especially the dam area. They just don't live in very large quantities on the main lake. January thru March, the Kings River, Long Creek, and the James River produce at times nice crappie In the Summer, just about Zero. Be prepared for Whites if you see them but realize that it may not happen and right around Indian Point is as good as any to stumble onto them. If I were looking and I fish most everyday, I probably could not find any unless they blew up. If your heart is super set on crappie you might try vertical jigging some of the cedar trees along the bluff banks, you can visually see them and also see them with electronics if your baot has good graphs. If you do find some, God Bless You and there are usually only one or two on a tree at most, this is not a crappie lake, especially on the White River main lake section. When you catch a catfish here and you will if you try, filet them and put the entire side on the grill on a piece of foil. The meat is snow white. Put some lemon pepper, old bay, and a little Lawrys salt on with a pat or two of butter and cook it till the edges start to sizzle and gets a slight crust around the edge. You don't need to turn it with a covered.grill. For presentation when it comes off, put it on a plate with chopped chives, chopped dill and another dusting of old bay. It won't disappoint. If you want to catch fish, go to Lilleys Landing and rent a boat and go trout fishing. The folks there are wonderful and full of information on how to fish the lake. Lots more bites on the trout pond than on the Rock in the Summer. Grilled Trout Tacos are about as good as it gets this time of the year.
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Best bet for white bass is early and late. At times you can see them surfacing chasing shad right at daylight. Poppers will work, but small swim baits and spoons either thrown into the schools or vertically jigged into the suspended schools works better. There have been a few, but very few surfacing in that area. Fishing now is pretty much over for the day at 8 AM in that area, so get out at 5 or so. Again depending on boat traffic it may be pretty tough till right before dark. Wait till just prior to dark to bait your catfish lines or the turtles will eat your perch. Crappie are pretty much non-existant in that area unless you can catch them under a commercial dock and that is a tough go. I would set a trotline or use jug lines or limb lines in some of the coves right now to catch catfish. You can fish for bluegill and have the kids keep the smaller ones for trotline bait and eat the bigger ones. There should be plenty of bait size ones around your resort dock. In a boat target the gravel points and the timbered cuts in 12 to 30 feet for the big ones. Crickets seem to work the best just fished up and down on a drop shot., July on Table Rock Lake at Indian Point is not the time to be fishing, expecting a fish fry, just for the most part unless its catfish. Good Luck out there.
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Started out of Eagle Rock at 0600 with Rod and Will. Only 1 rig in the small lot. We fished to the Mouth of Carter and there was absolutely no topwater early. We caught fish on a 2.8 Keitech and a drop shot but it was not fast. Probably about a dozen for Will and half that for Rod. I could catch them, but right now the speed and depth of that swim bait is CRITICAL.. I just cannot get people to fish it correctly, either to much speed or hung on the bottom. About 0900 we finely got on them as they started chasing across from Rock Creek. They had two on a fin that simply blew its doors off hitting it with total abandon and another dozen on the swimmer just cranking it medium fast shallow thru the chasers. All most all the chasers were LM with the best at a couple of pounds. Probably 30 total for the day, with a dozen small keeps. Just zero lake traffic on a Saturday, a few bass boats and a few wake boats and that was it. Got back to the ramp and there was only one other rig, a total of 3 rigs at 10 am on a Saturday morning. Good Luck
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If that fish was filled out it would have been a total pig. Great job. A fish like that up North with that length would weight a ton.
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Great report very similar to our 18th. I made it to Viney late in the morning but bite had died. Did really the same deal as you did around the mouth of the Kings.
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You are also buddy. Notropis there are huge schools of these in the bushes and along the bank also. Just simply millions of them in the Shell Knob area. By Black Bass, I was alluding to any of the 3/4 varieties we have swimming here. LM, Spots, SM, and Meanies. Would these schools, combine to make these bio masses? Who and what ever they are, their parents did a good job of getting them to that size in massive perhaps record breaking numbers. Thanks All and Good Luck out there.
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That is fantastic. On another note how can you be in water that is 20 degree cooler than body temp and be smiling?😂
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They are out there now. You can usually start at Cool Water Cove.
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Pretty sure they are black bass. I think white bass fry would be bigger, a broader body and maybe not that far away from their spawning area yet. Morig would know. Who ever they are there are millions of them from Campbell Point to Big M.
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Good Job guys, it was really hard lake wide this morning.
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I talked to 4 or 5 other guides this morning and all were more than crying the Blues. It was just brutal, after yesterdays feeding fest.
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Fished the dam with Mike this morning right before the storm. It didn't have any magic as it was harder than a bankers heart out there. We decided to wait a while and fish up the river a mite and let those persnickety critters at the dam go about there business without us.
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Table Rock Lake Current Fishing Report June, 14 2019 Shell Knob, MO. White River Outfitters Perhaps the most perfect Top Water Morning, Just up Stream from Shell Knob. ss The Idea this morning was to fish out of Eagle Rock. I had a last minute cancel that I was not able to fill and have two trips next week out of Eagle Rock and wanted to get up there and see what was happening. Got to the 86 bridge at 5:30, and knew I was in trouble as there were boats and rigs parked everywhere. Didn't want to fight the mob, I'm guessing a pretty decent size derby. Didn't want to waste a perfect morning so I booked for the Shell Knob Bridge Ramp and there were only 2 rigs there at a little after 6. Lots of boats flying by from up stream so I'm guessing the ER derby crowd was headed downstream to big water. Mistake for the most part. I headed upstream right into the teeth of them. Boats on most ever dock and major runnout from SK to Carter, all right on the bank or flipping any dock they could find. With the cloud cover slight drizzle and little chop you could not have ordered a better Top water morning. Fish were absolutely blowing everywhere at depth. At first I thought they were whites, but nope, mostly LM with some really nice K's and several Jaws mixed in. I petty much caught big keeper fish cast after cast from 6:15 till 9:30 on a Fin. I have fished here in the good and bad times and today for me was for sure one of the good times. Wish my son could have been out with me, he was here last week and we caught fish, mostly on a jig but today was special as it was all about the Top. A couple of guys that were fishing a dock came out and pulled up to me saying that had seen me wacking them and did not mean to intrude but wondered how I was catching them. I asked first off did you catch any on that dock and they said no. They had watched the MLF guys catching them early in the mornings on a shad spawn under docks and thought that was the deal. I said it might have been a month ago, but those fish were long gone and out here for me to catch. I tried to help them, but It just was not going to happen,so I wished them luck and they pulled off. About that time the fish blew up again. I was sitting in 106 feet of water. Message to self, I don't think White River bass need to hide under anything.😎 Just about every fish I caught and the numbers were a bit silly, were keepers. With the way they were feeding this morning, I'm guessing they probably will not eat again until sometime next month. I just got really lucky being in the right place on the right day at the right time. These fish were chasing schools of shad and also schools of fry. There are just millions of tiny fry swimming in big schools around the Knob. Some shallow and some deep. Just have no idea how many offspring are out there this year as I think we had a fantastic spawn. My boat was so saturated with poop, fry, shad and crayfish that I had to take it to the car wash and wash it out to prevent from grinding it into the carpet. Lots of Daddy's in them also, just about the size of a 3/8 oz. jig Put lots of fish on the board, but for the most part just gave them a smooch and sent them back to the briny deep to continue on their feeding binge. I did catch 1 on a jig just for kicks and grins and a couple on a drop shot and a spoon, but the Fin was the deal by far on this perfect top water day on Table Rock Lake. -
Last Week Around the Dam - Piggy Backing Bablers Report
Bill Babler replied to abkeenan's topic in Table Rock Lake
Do I know what that wakebait looks like.🎃 -
Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, June 11
Bill Babler replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Fish, they seem to eat anything from a size 30 midge to Duck Poop, just depends how and where. When you get her totally figured out, please let me know. I have told this story before, Phil and I were guiding a group of Dr.'s quite a few years ago and it was about as hot and slick with no current as you could get. Of course they were fly fishing and we were of course struggling. There was one boat that wasn't, two old boys were throwing egg flies about the size of a quarter on spinning rods catching one after the other. Go figure. Years later I surmised those egg flies might just have been dipped in some kind of yum-yum, but who knows the evil mind of a trout. -
Bo, you are so right. But, for me every fish that my clients catch or my friends or son catches when they are with me I feel that maybe I did a little something to make that happen and it still after 30 years just flat tickles me to death. RB, I'm using the GPO in quick 5 with a smallie beaver. My son used a Chompers and a Yamamoto twin in GP He dipped the end of the tails orange and caught them as good, so really I don't think it matters much. The crayfish even prior to being in the stomach are really green pumpkin right now with lots of orange trim. We were using 1/2 oz.
