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I am sure a google search will provide you with maps of each lake. Both are managed by the Army Corps of Engineers and there are maps on their website. I have seen nice spiral bound maps also in local shops, you should be able to come up with one in the area when you get there. The lakes are managed for flood control downstream of each dam. This time of year they start drawing them down so they can catch water in the spring. Then they fill them up for the summer rec season. The main channel of the river is the deep part as is the lower end closer to the dam. Upper ends are rivers unless backed up with flood water. A good gps will help if you don't know your way around.

Cut the feet off and make rainsuit bibs. They make goretex repair kits. Turn them inside out and fill them with water to find the leak and seal it. Then use them as a backup pair or a brush stomping pair.

Way to go, I hope she is reading the forum today to see how you feel.....

That answers a few questions. If you are on a shared well, you have no pressure tank, it is probably at the wellhead. There are companies and probably good plumbers that will "locate" and mark your lines. You may try Missouri One Call, tell them you are digging a ditch or building a fence and they should mark all utility lines for you. Locate the line where it crosses your property somewhere, and have someone install a saddle with a shutoff valve. You will probably have to coordinate with well owner/manager to shut down water at the source.

Why not cut the pipe where it enters the house or where it leaves the well, the pipe should be easy to figure out at those 2 spots? Installing a shutoff near the well would be the best, put a saddle pipe around the shutoff valve and a cover lid. Is there a shutoff near the pressure tank? I assume you had a busted water line in the cold weather.

OB is probably right, NFS since it is in the National Forestry System. But the local MDC will probably steer you in the right direction.

4 men in a 12' boat with gear is pretty heavy. All it would take is one lean to the side to roll it.

Why don't you try to contact the area office where you are concerned about. I doubt if they would use rip rap, maybe willows or cedar. Local stream teams do stuff like too. MDC Contact page

If we were playing football, I would say you were "sacked". That hurt me to read that one. Good thing Leonard did not have to go "barbless" after that one.

I hope this is not anyone of our guys. Tragic, seems like the boat may have been overloaded and the water is still cold. 4 Dead in Boating Accident on Niangua River. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS | 1 Comment | Posted: Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:19 pm DALLAS, Mo. Four Fair Grove residents are dead after a state conservation officer found their small boat capsized on the Niangua River in southwestern Missouri. The Missouri State Water Patrol identified the victims as David Dixon, 68; Doyle Cowin, 62; Hubert Highfill, 43, and Jesse Highfill, 11. The conservation officer was responding to a call for assistance about 10:30 p.m. Friday when he found Dixon clinging to the side of the capsized vessel. Dixon was airlifted to a Springfield hospital where he was later pronounced dead. The other three victims were pronounced dead at the scene by the Dallas County coroner. Investigators say the four were on the river for a fishing trip and had planned to return home that evening. Fair Grove is about 10 miles northeast of Springfield, Mo.

Which trick? Push thru and cut, fishing line on the bend and yank, work it back out the way it came?

Duck Creek one summer evening in the canoe, my buddy in front and I in the back were fishing for bass with Heddon Torpedos. My buddy hooked a nice one and was cranking it in when it jumped and tossed the hook which came sailing back to me, in my knee. 3 points buried past the barbs. Cut the snap rings then cut skin and pushed the barbs back out and cut them off to remove the hooks. There were a few dizzy spells and some blood. St Francis River, stepped out on bank to fish riffles, tossed a 3 hook Rapala and it hung on a limb. I gave it a yank and here it come, deflected it from my head with a quick move of my arm. Stuck one hook deep into the tendon of my wrist. I was having trouble operating with left hand and tried to get fishing buddy to help. He was too squemish and would not touch it. Finally worked the hook off the snap ring and continued to fish with the hook in my wrist. After a while, I figured the ER visit will cost some money and I did not really have time to drive 60 miles to the nearest ER. Grabbed the hook and yanked like hell, no ill effects after the initial pain wore off. Frederick Creek, another buddy caught a 3 hook Rapala in the hand when a bass tossed it on the jump, it managed to connect 2 of his fingers together. I had to operate, cutting some flesh and pushing the hook thru to cut the barb. A Leatherman tool, sharp knife, or a pair of pliers comes in handy on all fishing trips along with a couple of band aids I carry in my wallet.

I would think you would use this in case you don't have an correct sized feather for the project. You would just wrap the feather a little farther away from the eye of the hook, then lay the feathers back and wrap over them. You could use a hackle guard tool, straw, empty ball point pen to hold them back as you wrap over them. They will probably look more scraggly than if you had wrapped it on. I am not sure of your desired effect, are you looking to use longer feathers to make them "leggier" looking? Normally I just pick thru and find one that matches the size of the fly I am tying.

New Organic Dairy Farms. Has anyone in the area heard about this new dairy operation moving into Kosh yet? Looks like a pretty large scale operation. While I am not opposed to farmers making a living, large scale commercial operations tend to lead to concentrated water pollution problems. I am not sure that is what the area really needs.

I'd like to see the patterns on 410 shot shell in 6 and see how it patterns. I have shot 357 and 38 shot loads with 9's and the pattern is weak, not enough power to kill a snake. 148 gr hollow base wadcutter loaded reverse is my favorite load, accurate and does not ricochet too much.

The lemming theory. I don't feel that we have exceeded earth's carrying capacity, we are not on the edge of the cliff yet, but there are areas in trouble. We supplement populations in deserts that can't support squat. We try to help countries that are dying of Aids. We try to stop wars in areas where wars are a way of population control. Our current ideas of technology only increase populations instead of letting nature run its course and let the strong survive. But it is not proper to let nature run its course, it is not humane. There is that little weakness of ours called compassion. Or is it control?

Battenkill Barstocks have a funky drag on them that works it way off and is sorta cheap. If you rely on a drag to play a fish. Otherwise, it is a decent reel for the money.

They make garage doors but don't own cars or have electricity.

Oh crap, now I'm blind.

So what did you do today to stop pollution? You obviously used a computer that used electricity, the generation probably caused pollution. Did you walk to work? Or did you just sit around an blame Rush while you listened to him on the radio?

I am not a political figure, so my personal opinion and take on the matter could not be confused as being political. It is a statement. Most seem to want to confuse science with politics and there is no comparison. Global warming started at the end of the last Ice Age, did we cause that?

Local news reported today, they tested 13 birds and found the cause of death as Blunt Force Trauma by running into a building. I had seen an article a week or so ago in AFGC that it was caused by disorientation and flew as a group into the ground. No poison or disease. Anyone ever hear about the fish kill? Went by a local lake in Perry County that was almost froze over and notice a large Gizzard Shad kill all around the edges. Don't know what killed them, but it was just shad, nothing else and hundreds of them.

The claw marks on the backpack would have been enough for a good self defense statement.

Wappapello has its moments and can be some good fishing. It is an older lake and has been thru many changes. In its early stages, it produced many large bass. Then it became overpopulated with small bass and a creel limit tried to eliminate the small ones and bring back bigger bass. It is managed for crappie as well and is average for that. Most of my fishing is done on the upper parts and we have had pretty good luck, but nothing large. The Corps boundary goes all the way up to 34 bridge and I normally float it during the summer down to Greenville a few times each summer. It has a good white bass run in the spring. Clearwater is drawn down now and will be for a while for repairs on a sinkhole in the dam. I never fished it much so really can't help you there.

Once again, my views have nothing to do with politics. I think it is an arrogant position to claim man is changing the world's climate to the point that it is now. While mankind's effect on the environment may run areas of the world and affect somethings in the environment, changing the climate is a bigger ball of wax. For the ones that say the glaciers are melting in Alaska, they have been doing that for thousands of years. For the ones that say the global temperature is rising, it is. One good round of volcanic eruption our cool solar cycle may make it go back down. It is not because of cow farts. I live in an area that was once a volcanic mountain range, then a shallow ocean, now it is 600 feet above sea level and dry. Was that sea caused by dinosaur farts? Climate changes occur whether man is burning gas in a car, pumping crap in the air from a factory, or not even around at all. What we should worry about is clean air, clean water, protection of forests and the land. Those are caused by man and can be controlled by not polluting and sound management of our resources. We will never control the climate globally or cause its change in mass scale, Earth does that. And we are just a blip on that time scale.