I'm not alleging that I caught a few 16-17...I did catch a few 16-17. But I wouldn't call them great fish. Decent fish. But I don't know what that has to do with anything. Regardless of what size fish are in that river and how many you catch, or if there were no fish at all, 200 floaters ruins a trip. So does 100 and so does 50. And there's nothing can be done about it, but I still wish MO Conservationist and everyone else would just shut up about all rivers, especially the ones that are already swamped with idiots.