Rio Fly Line - On Sale, Don't Pay $70

[Brian K. Shaffer]

Sorry, I left out that they are WF lines. Thanks for the reminder! Brian

[snagged in outlet 3]

Keep it up Brian. If you post something I need, I'd buy it.

Thanks again Pat my friend.

Snagged.

[Paola Cat]

I'm "all-in" with Pat and SIO3 on this one. It's survival mode right now. Trade, barter, or discount are the only viable options for my current situation. If an individual or shop has got something I need or vice versa .... let's talk. Doesn't matter. PC

[fishinwrench]

LMAO...this is too much !

Brian and I butt heads more often than not...but I've got his back on this one. Maybe the "official RIO dealers" need to look into the wholesale prices they are being quoted from their vendors...before agreeing to purchase a full case at that price, and ending up stuck with it.

This appears to be more of an indication that WHOLESALERS are screwing the flyshops.....NOT brian.

[FishinCricket]

Trashing someones for sale add is worse than anything I see for sale in this thread. I wish all parties doing so would have left their personal feelings in the private messages or started their own thread.

I am an auto salesman who works for a franchised dealer.. I can attest to the fact that there are some major disadvantages to buying your auto outside of a franchised dealer, whether that be from an ad posted by a member of OAF, at Joes used car lot or from Sister Mary, the nun next door.

I could post that informational on every personal car ad on here, but I don't.

Instead I post as much positive info as I can, or I steer clear of the ad. Sure, losing a customer to a personal ad (that might be a major problem vehicle, rollback, priced way too high, prone to transmission failures, etc) is a bit frustrating sometimes.. But being respectful sometimes means holding your tongue.

Good luck on your sale Brian, sounds like a cheap deal...

[john19]

I think that you all have missed the point and I bet if you were in retail business for your self you would understand the topic more. You have done everything in your power to make sure that people are coming through your door for what ever product it might be.

You have made an investment then some joe blow off the cuff person comes across a deal and then tries to capitalize on your customers. Thats not right and I am willing to bet the farm that he/she is trying to double the money that he /she has invested.

So who would you rather make the money, some fly by the night or some one that has an established business and will always be there with help and answers to your needs.

Yes we are in survival mode and I can assure you that people that own there own business and that is their lively hood need the money more than someone with a day job and a steady income that runs across a deal then tries to capitalize on the find.

[fishgypsy]

John-

I understand your frustration, but that's life. I've been unemployed since August. We're all hurting for money. Deal with it. Fly shops are one of the most competitive ventures in the retail industry- if anyone dove into owning and operating a shop and seriously didn't expect competition, that's their folly.

Aside from the markup, precisely what's the difference between a product Brian is selling and a product a fly shop would be selling? I understand that a flyshop would be able to help if I had issues with a product, which would be great if I were buying a rod or reel or waders or something else I'm getting for the long haul. But I've never had an issue with fly line that wasn't due to anything but normal wear and tear.

[cnr]

So should anyone selling cars for a living be offended by the Ford truck being sold in this forum also? What if I tied a few hundred flies up and offered them for sale, would that be okay to sell even though it competes against the fly shops? I definitely have Brian's back on this subject. Capitalism is what makes this country great and if you start restricting the ability of people to exercise it what happens then?

I use the fly shops and give them a fair amount of business but I also need to find a good deal. Instead of taking this as a negative situation one of the fly shops could step up and match his price or offer assistance to setup the line if they buy xx$ of merchandise. You are never going to stop the horse trading that goes on but you sure could use it as leverage to gain more sales. If you are willing to adapt and take advantage of the situation it could turn into a positive situation.

[Flysmallie]

So who would you rather make the money, some fly by the night or some one that has an established business and will always be there with help and answers to your needs.

Whoever needs it the most. I am in the retail market so I understand what you are talking about. We do have people try to take our customers by underselling us all the time. It's called competition. There are two ways to handle competition. You can scream like a little baby and complain to your customers that they are not being fair because it cuts into your profit, and stand the chance of loosing more business. Or you can try something different to support your customers and bring them back to your place of business.

Maybe you guys should attack sites like ebay, who are probably doing some real damage, and leave small time guys like Brian alone. If you were smart you would leave him alone and hope that he sells out fast. Making him hang onto to it longer only drives the price down, but he will still have to move the product. So now he has still "take your sales" but nobody has made any money.

[john19]

There is no difference in the product, Capitalism is what makes our country spin and the right to do what ever you want as long as it is LEGAL.

You all have made valid comments and I think that a fly shop could capitalize on this if they wanted to.

I would rather the person that is doing everything Legal and that has made the life long investment to make the money.

WOO HOO for Brian he found some fly lines on sale bought everyone of them I bet he has only $25-30/line invested. Hope he does well with his venture.

I have actually had some problems with fly lines and they were due to manufacture defect I had to return with a paid receipt form where I bought them and the company which BTW was Rio replaced them.

If I had no receipt then RIO said they would not replace them so I guess if I paid $50 for a line I might as well burned the $50 .

I had to learn this the hard way with a reel I bought from an individual he told me it had a lifetime warranty on it the reel had to have some work done on it about 3 months latter. I sent it in with my return address on it they called me and asked about the name for the repair order I told them the story. I am now out my $150 and am a proud owner of a reel that does not work.

Again Good luck and congrats to Brian on finding a good deal and capitalizing on it.