Smallmouth, Rock Bass Survey

[eric1978]

Your all the way up in St.Louis so like I say its not got anything to do with you fishing.

I have a vehicle, and sometimes I even use it. You don't own the Niangua because you live near it. My state tax revenue dollars are just as green as yours.

[fishinwrench]

I recieved the little blue card and put it in its proper place. I filled out a multi-paged survey a year or so ago and got a big warm fuzzy out of it....So what's the strategy here, are they just gonna keep repeating the "survey" until they get the results they are looking for ?

I have a feeling that my input on that issue is about as significant as your input on an election ballot, and not even worth a trip out to the mailbox. Just someone trying to justify a cush little phoney baloney job.

Fire away

[G-ROD]

I didn't get one but my 16 year old son did..

[oneshot]

I have a vehicle, and sometimes I even use it. You don't own the Niangua because you live near it. My state tax revenue dollars are just as green as yours.

I have a Vehical too but being on Fixed Income and Gas prices I can't be driving all over the State when I'm wanting Fish.Its stupid to have a supply cut off couple miles down the road because someone over 200 miles away decides they how they want to fish.

oneshot

[troutfiend1985]

Hold on there Oneshot, I think you're a nice guy but I cannot agree whatsoever with that statement. Yes, I understand that you are on a fixed income, and I highly doubt that you by yourself could kill the Niangua smallmouth population. But numerous people keeping fish too often will surely hurt that fishery. I think what Eric is referring to is the tragedy of the commons, if I don't keep this fish then somebody else will keep this fish the next time that it is caught. Just my .02

[Buzz]

I didn't get one either.

[laker67]

Hold on there Oneshot, I think you're a nice guy but I cannot agree whatsoever with that statement. Yes, I understand that you are on a fixed income, and I highly doubt that you by yourself could kill the Niangua smallmouth population. But numerous people keeping fish too often will surely hurt that fishery. I think what Eric is referring to is the tragedy of the commons, if I don't keep this fish then somebody else will keep this fish the next time that it is caught. Just my .02

Oneshot drives 2 miles and keeps fish, you guys drive 200 miles and turn them loose. Sounds like a break even to me.

[troutfiend1985]

Oneshot drives 2 miles and keeps fish, you guys drive 200 miles and turn them loose. Sounds like a break even to me.

You miss the point. I'm not saying that oneshot is the cause of any problems, nor is he doing anything wrong. Its the idea that the state can regulate in order to protect its fisheries. If everyone keeps a daily limit everyday, then the fishing declines. So yeah, no problem with oneshot whatsoever but his idea on regulation is another story.

[laker67]

You miss the point. I'm not saying that oneshot is the cause of any problems, nor is he doing anything wrong. Its the idea that the state can regulate in order to protect its fisheries. If everyone keeps a daily limit everyday, then the fishing declines. So yeah, no problem with oneshot whatsoever but his idea on regulation is another story.

If mdc thinks that each and every angler can keep a daily set limit of a species of fish, and up to the possession limit, they surely are confident that the fish are self substaining and plenty to go around. I don't think that you can prove or disprove that keeping a daily limit can adversly affect a species of fish. According to mdc regs it does not. I think limits are determined by the fishes ability to reproduce. Look at the hundreds of thousands of crappie that are creeled on an annual basis. These surveys help in the process of establishing new regs on an annual basis. Mdc does say that every one can keep a daily limit without putting the fishery in jeopardy.

[fishinwrench]

Do you suppose that if everyone that is chosen to participate in the survey checked the box that indicated that they kept smallmouth rather than releasing them, that it would have a bearing on the regulation decisions they are "supposedly" trying to decide upon ?

Seems to me that they have chosen a specific caliber of anglers to send these things to... a target audience if you will. I probably got it because of my Stream Team affiliation and because of my personal inquirys to specific biologists in the past, but none of my neighbors recieved it, and they "fish" all the time, all over the place.

Don't you think MDC already knows what the results of this survey will indicate ? I do.

It will indicate that smallmouth are targeted frequently, and that they are almost always released. Duh !