Quillback Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 SPOCK: "Captain, this planet appears to be shielded by an impenetrable force field of deniability." KIRK: "Dammit Spock, we must find a way to communicate with those people, use your powers of logic and reason to overcome this obstacle!" SPOCK: "Captain, I am sorry to report that my calculations indicate that this force field in 100% impervious to logic or reason." KIRK: "Sigh, well Spock, I guess we'll have to leave, by the way, did you know Roosevelt was a communist?"
eric1978 Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 actually your wrong. I found the BP stuff through google, Chernobyl is common knowledge. Soviet nuclear reactors have always been unsafe. I think it is you who has the forcefield of denial. Since I know you wouldn't read any link I'd post, I put it in TV form so you can continue to enjoy your potato chips while learning. Halliburton: Accidents never happen in America: http://www.youtube.c...37B0E873F58A3D7 Part II: http://www.youtube.c...feature=related Part III: http://www.youtube.c...feature=related Part IV: http://www.youtube.c...feature=related Part V: http://www.youtube.c...feature=related Part VI: http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
flytyer57 Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 BTW, unemployment was through the roof until WW2. No thanks to Herbert Hoover ® There's a fine line between fishing and sitting there looking stupid.
Outside Bend Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 I pick Andrew Jackson for closest US dictator <{{{><
flytyer57 Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 From Wiki: Various countries around the world started to recover from the Great Depression at different times. In most countries of the world, recovery from the Great Depression began in 1933. In the U.S., recovery began in the spring of 1933. However, the U.S. did not return to 1929 GNP for over a decade and still had an unemployment rate of about 15% in 1940, albeit down from the high of 25% in 1933. There is no consensus among economists regarding the motive force for the U.S. economic expansion that continued through most of the Roosevelt years (and the 1937 recession that interrupted it). The common view among mainstream economists is that Roosevelt's New Deal policies either caused or accelerated the recovery, although his policies were never aggressive enough to bring the economy completely out of recession. Some economists have also called attention to the positive effects from expectations of reflation and rising nominal interest rates that Roosevelt's words and actions portended. However, opposition from the new Conservative Coalition caused a rollback of the New Deal policies in early 1937, which caused a setback in the recovery. There's a fine line between fishing and sitting there looking stupid.
Members Bassfly Posted February 3, 2011 Members Posted February 3, 2011 The thing that happened on the Oil Rig was because of stupidity on site. People were pushing things to stay on track and probably keep their bonus for completing on time. You really can't keep bringing up 3 Mile as a reason to not have nuclear power today. That's just absurd. It was 1979 for crying out loud. Were you even born then? You don't think that anything has changed or been improved from that time? There are nuclear reactors work well all over this country. But we don't want to do it because of what happened in 1979? Please. Things that also happened in 1979 January 29 – Brenda Ann Spencer opens fire at a school in San Diego, California, killing 2 faculty members and wounding 8 students. Her response to the action, "I don't like Mondays," - Do you think schools should be open on Mondays? February 18 – The Sahara Desert experiences snow for 30 minutes. Shouldn't we put some snow plows out there just in case? April 20 – President Jimmy Carter is attacked by a swamp rabbit while fishing in his hometown of Plains, Georgia. I have nothing to add but that's darn funny right there. May 25 - American Airlines Flight 191: In Chicago, a DC-10 crashes during takeoff at O'Hare International Airport, killing 271 on board and 2 people on the ground. That killed more people than any nuclear reactor accident in the US. I can't believe we haven't done away with airplanes. June 3 - A blowout at the Ixtoc I oil well in the southern Gulf of Mexico causes at least 600,000 tons (176,400,000 gallons) of oil to be spilled into the waters, the worst oil spill to date. Some estimate the spill to be 428 million gallons, making it the largest unintentional oil spill until it was surpassed by the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill in 2010. What? You mean it happened before and we didn't put a stop to it? December 3 - Eleven fans are killed during a stampede for seats before The Who concert at the Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati, Ohio. Have we banned concerts yet? The sad thing is they died to see The Who. McDonald's introduces the Happy Meal in June. This will probably cause more problems for your kids than any nuclear reactor. You are a funny guy. You sound so intelligent most of the time and really seem like you do the research. And then you make a total hillbilly remark on something that you know nothing about. Then you keeping throwing out an accident that happened 32 years ago to uphold your decision. Or you bring up some Russian piece of crap reactor. If you were so worried about your kids you would move them the hell away from St. Louis.
eric1978 Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 You really can't keep bringing up 3 Mile as a reason to not have nuclear power today. That's just absurd. It was 1979 for crying out loud. Were you even born then? You don't think that anything has changed or been improved from that time? There are nuclear reactors work well all over this country. But we don't want to do it because of what happened in 1979? Please.... ...You are a funny guy. You sound so intelligent most of the time and really seem like you do the research. And then you make a total hillbilly remark on something that you know nothing about. Then you keeping throwing out an accident that happened 32 years ago to uphold your decision. Or you bring up some Russian piece of crap reactor. If you were so worried about your kids you would move them the hell away from St. Louis. BF, go back and read what I've said about nuclear...I'm on board. The point I'm making with the 3MI, Chernobyl, and BP incidents is that just because we're Americans and living in the 21st Century doesn't make us impervious to accident and disaster. So let's not start pretending that nuclear power comes without risk. Nuclear IMO is a viable fuel alternative, but as I said before, I think we should be focusing on renewable, and only supplementing that with the more dangerous sources like nuclear and fossil fuel. So that's my point...that there's no magic bullet when it comes to our energy crisis. No alternative is perfect, and I'm simply pointing out one of the problems with nuclear. And yes, I was alive in '79.
flytyer57 Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 June 3 - A blowout at the Ixtoc I oil well in the southern Gulf of Mexico causes at least 600,000 tons (176,400,000 gallons) of oil to be spilled into the waters, the worst oil spill to date. Some estimate the spill to be 428 million gallons, making it the largest unintentional oil spill until it was surpassed by the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill in 2010. What? You mean it happened before and we didn't put a stop to it? No we didn't put a stop to it and we still haven't put a stop to nuclear power plants. So when do you figure we'll have another nuclear power plant meltdown? According to your philosophy here, it's gonna happen. There's a fine line between fishing and sitting there looking stupid.
Members Bassfly Posted February 3, 2011 Members Posted February 3, 2011 No we didn't put a stop to it and we still haven't put a stop to nuclear power plants. So when do you figure we'll have another nuclear power plant meltdown? According to your philosophy here, it's gonna happen. It will happen, but that's the same with everything. At some point life on this planet will cease to exist, so should we just give up today. My point is that anything can happen at anytime. I just don't think comparing a reactor used in 1979 to one built today is comparing apples to apples. They made some pretty good pick-ups in 1979. But I don't drive one today.
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