David Unnerstall Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 There is a lot of insightful discussion in this post. It makes me proud you all let me hang around, here.
exiledguide Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 So let me get this right, now if another employer came to you and offered you 20 or 30 percent more money and a better healthcare package more vacation etc., you would turn that down if your employer did not match the offer and then go home and tell your wife you turned down a better lifestyle for your family out of loyalty to your boss? So your boss is more important to you than your family. You must have a different relationship with your employer than most of us.
eric1978 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Bunch of haters that are jealous of his success and heartbroken at his departure. You don't find it a scumbag move to spit in the face of your career-long loyal fans because someone throws a big bag of cash at you? Despicable. I'll never pretend the man isn't a hell of a ball player...no one can take that away from him. I'm asserting that he's a turd of a person, which he went ahead and proved today after years of suspicion. And don't throw the philanthropy thing around like it's some big deal...every rich and famous person does it because they're expected to. Kinda hurts your "profile" if you don't. I'd like to hear what percentage of his enormous salary actually came out of his pocket. Wouldn't surprise me if it was next to nothing. Yeah, he can hit a baseball, but he ain't St. Louis material. I'd rather lose without him than win with him. He's all about the money. Adios Poopholes.
exiledguide Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 You don't find it a scumbag move to spit in the face of your career-long loyal fans because someone throws a big bag of cash at you? Despicable. I'll never pretend the man isn't a hell of a ball player...no one can take that away from him. I'm asserting that he's a turd of a person, which he went ahead and proved today after years of suspicion. And don't throw the philanthropy thing around like it's some big deal...every rich and famous person does it because they're expected to. Kinda hurts your "profile" if you don't. I'd like to hear what percentage of his enormous salary actually came out of his pocket. Wouldn't surprise me if it was next to nothing. Yeah, he can hit a baseball, but he ain't St. Louis material. I'd rather lose without him than win with him. He's all about the money. Adios Poopholes. Thats a real mature statement there, Eric. So if he had resigned with the Cardinals you would be pissed because you would rather loose without him than win with him ? why the venom you seem to have gotten your wish.
eric1978 Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Thats a real mature statement there, Eric. So if he had resigned with the Cardinals you would be pissed because you would rather loose without him than win with him ? why the venom you seem to have gotten your wish. I would have gotten my wish if he had shown a little humility and gratitude for Cardinals fans and the citizens of St. Louis, who supported him and kissed his arse and worshipped at his altar for a decade. I just thought he was a self-centered whiner before...now I think he's a sellout. Strike that...he is a sellout. How many millions do you need for a "better lifestyle?" I'd venture to say he was quite comfortable here. Ah, we're better off anyway. He'll sprain his ankle walking to first base on a routine grounder and he'll call it a career ender...and the Angels will be stuck with the bill instead of us.
stlfisher Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 So let me get this right, now if another employer came to you and offered you 20 or 30 percent more money and a better healthcare package more vacation etc., you would turn that down if your employer did not match the offer and then go home and tell your wife you turned down a better lifestyle for your family out of loyalty to your boss? So your boss is more important to you than your family. You must have a different relationship with your employer than most of us. I don't disagree with this theory if you apply it to the everyday working class, but there is a difference between making what most of us make and being offered a raise and an elite baseball player making 220 million vs. 250 million. We're talking health care and a raise that would substantially help our families pay the bills and support our kids. Albert has none of those problems. Big difference between the two IMO. Personally, I think the Cardinals will be fine. Albert was good, but he didn't win alone. There are a lot of quality pieces and certainly some holes to fill. Albert fits with an American league team that can hide him at DH his last 3 or 4 years when he is terrible. There is no way the Cardinals could have done that and still been competitive and they new it. It sucks that he left and I hate to see him go, but his next 10 years won't be nearly as good as his first 11 with the Cardinals. The Angels payed for past performance. I hope when Albert returns to St. Louis in the next few years (during interleague play)the fans don't give him a standing ovation and I hope they don't boo either. Just act like it is no big deal and you move on. That is what quality, winning, and confident organizations do. For athletes that love the spotlight and feed of love and hate indifference from a fan base and organization would send a strong statement. Would be cool if Carpenter plunked him though!
moguy1973 Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 I hope when Albert returns to St. Louis in the next few years (during interleague play)the fans don't give him a standing ovation when the Cardinals are sitting atop the Central division without him and I hope they don't boo either. Just act like it is no big deal and you move on. That is what quality, winning, and confident organizations do. I agree -- JimIf people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles. -- Doug Larson
eric1978 Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 I hope when Albert returns to St. Louis in the next few years (during interleague play)the fans don't give him a standing ovation and I hope they don't boo either. Just act like it is no big deal and you move on. That's the thing...You watch, I guarantee he gets a standing o because that's the kind of baseball town St. Louis is and those are the kind of fans we have. And Albert just took a sloppy crap all over us for, like you said, a few extra mil. Big whoop. How rich do you need to be before you care about acting like a human being? I hope I'm at his first game back so I have the chance to throw one of those stale hot dogs at his giant head.
Brian K. Shaffer Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 i cannot even read ... just disbelief in all aspects, and it will take some time to read thru all this.. just not right now its too soon Just once I wish a trout would wink at me! ozarkflyfisher@gmail.com I'm the guy wearing the same Simms longbilled hat for 10 years now.
Quillback Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 It's a good move, Pujols numbers have been declining and will probably continue to go down, he'll still have good numbers, but even in these days of overinflated baseball salaries, he's not worth $250 million for 10 years. And if Ol' Albert doesn't put up numbers to match his salary, he'll hear the boos. He's going to find out what it's like to play in front of fans that expect a triple crown, and will turn on him if he doesn't produce, instead of fans that idolize you.
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