New Missouri State Record Largemouth!

[Chief Grey Bear]

None taken. I just personally see a big difference in taking a fish on rod and reel and artificials, and taking a fish on live bait left somewhere overnight.

Sure there is a big difference but, as Al stated, there are many that chase the new world record bass with a greater amount of skill and better equipment than George had and have yet to catch it. So how much does skill come into play????

But that's me. Some people don't have such a discriminating fishlosophy.

I don't think that is the term they use with you. Snob!

[ozark trout fisher]

Wow...I never knew the record was only 8-9lbs....that seems small to me.

The regular pole and line record is a good deal larger, 13 pounds 4 ounces I believe.

Obviously there was plenty of luck involved here, but my inclination is definitely just to congratulate the guy if for no other reason than he released the fish (which is more than you can say of the majority of folks who catch a record fish on pole and line.) We need more people who would do the same in that situation.

[Feathers and Fins]

Bass, Hybrid Black

Pole and line 5 lbs. 10 oz. Table Rock Lake 03/17/2004 Mark Fann Nixa, Mo.

Alternative method Open

Bass, Largemouth

Pole and line 13 lbs. 14 oz. Bull Shoals Lake 04/21/1961 Marvin Russell Bushong Gainesville, Mo.

Trotline 9 lbs. 2 oz. Katonka Lake 04/28/2012 Dylan Gilmore Perry, Mo.

Bass, Smallmouth

Pole and line 7 lbs. 2 oz. Stockton Lake 12/18/1994 Kevin S. Clingan Springfield, Mo.

Jugfishing 4 lbs. 3 oz. Table Rock Lake 09/18/2002 Paul V. Elder House Springs, Mo.

Bass, Spotted

Pole and line 7 lbs. 8 oz. Table Rock Lake 04/06/1966 Gene Arnaud Branson, Mo.

l Limbline 1 lbs. 12 oz. Castor River 09/20/1996 David C. Ward Advance, Mo.

Ok so the record is only for the method he caught it using, as the state record is much larger. Large fish certainly, A record by state standars for the type of gear but to me I just keep asking myself should these un-attended methods be even put on the books? Not knocking this guy or his fish but to me a "angling" record should be for a person who is using a Rod- Reel and Line they are in control over. It could be with live bait to a lure but should be fore rod , reel and line imo.

[ness]

I'd wager most world records are a lotta 'luck'. Right place, right time kinda stuff accounts for most of it. But heck -- he was out there doing it, while I was working.

Seems like every time I hear about a record, there's a discussion about the person or the method, and it tends toward the guy somehow not being worthy or the method being sub par. It is what it is -- the biggest recorded bass in the state caught that way -- and that's about it. The interesting part to me is where he caught it. The record is just another meaningless number to file away in our brains until the next best fish comes along.

[riverfish]

i was raised trot lining as a kid with my dad and uncle there is a fine art to it. its not just stringing out some line and tieing hooks to it if your trying to do it right. it was one of our major food sources growing up and yes we were very poor. it almost takes two nights of trotlining the first we set multilple lines both deep and shallow to find the fish then you spend all night catching shad to put on them finally get them baited take a nap until right at daylight go run em because the fish start to twist off if you get there two late. when your finished you move the unproductive lines to similar areas of the lines that were productive. then you begin your day of catching perch all day long to have fresh bait on them throughout the day then you start all over again in the evening catching shad again and freshening up your bait on the lines. you also have to find what part of the water colomn there in you can't have your lines too tight or to baggy they have to be just right to realy score.i remember catching up to 75 fish in two nights as a kid. a vacation or weekend that involves trotlining like this is really no vacation at all. then you get home and still have all the work of cleaning the fish and putting away the gear from the weekend. when you do it the way my dad and uncle taught me its not really fishing its a way of life

[OzarksRiverman]

i was raised trot lining as a kid with my dad and uncle there is a fine art to it. its not just stringing out some line and tieing hooks to it if your trying to do it right. it was one of our major food sources growing up and yes we were very poor. it almost takes two nights of trotlining the first we set multilple lines both deep and shallow to find the fish then you spend all night catching shad to put on them finally get them baited take a nap until right at daylight go run em because the fish start to twist off if you get there two late. when your finished you move the unproductive lines to similar areas of the lines that were productive. then you begin your day of catching perch all day long to have fresh bait on them throughout the day then you start all over again in the evening catching shad again and freshening up your bait on the lines. you also have to find what part of the water colomn there in you can't have your lines too tight or to baggy they have to be just right to realy score.i remember catching up to 75 fish in two nights as a kid. a vacation or weekend that involves trotlining like this is really no vacation at all. then you get home and still have all the work of cleaning the fish and putting away the gear from the weekend. when you do it the way my dad and uncle taught me its not really fishing its a way of life

We can skin a buck, we can run a trotline, and a country boy can survive.

[Ndietiker]

yes, notice the previous record 24" 8lbs 2.2oz and the new record 23.5" 9lbs 2oz.

half an inch smaller, but a full pound heavier...

The reason for the weight difference is because the last record was frozen when it was weighed. I know because I caught it. We caught it on the Friday night of presidents day weekend and couldn't get ahold of anyone at the department until tuesday. Freezing the fish caused it to way a lot less due to te loss of water weight. The fish weighed a few ounces shy of 10lbs when it was caught. Congrats to the new record holder. I agree with most that it's not a real prestigious record. But still neat to be able to say you hold the record. He was even using the same bait that we were.

[eric1978]

I didn't realize freezing something changed its mass. That's a new one on me.

[Mitch f]

I didn't realize freezing something changed its mass. That's a new one on me.

Not sure about the weight, but when I jump into a cold pool, things change for the worse

[Daryk Campbell Sr]

The reason for the weight difference is because the last record was frozen when it was weighed. I know because I caught it. We caught it on the Friday night of presidents day weekend and couldn't get ahold of anyone at the department until tuesday. Freezing the fish caused it to way a lot less due to te loss of water weight. The fish weighed a few ounces shy of 10lbs when it was caught. Congrats to the new record holder. I agree with most that it's not a real prestigious record. But still neat to be able to say you hold the record. He was even using the same bait that we were.

What I tend to believe is that items when frozen will weigh the same as when they were not frozen. Meaning, if you were to weigh 5 oz of water and freeze the 5 oz of water, then weigh it as ice, it will still be 5 oz. The physical diminsions will be larger, and less dense (more bouyant), but the weight will not change. I could see losing weight if it was left in the sun, and dried out, but to be frozen, I don't believe it would lose weight. If we were talking about Dry Ice, then maybe the difference in weight would work against my statement, but we are not.

I believe that there may have been a variation in the accuracy of the scales that were used. Congrats anyhow, now you have a record to re-gain, not many people have that opportunity.