Interesting Weather Record Set Today

[Tim Smith]

Unless Dr. Tim Smith has a distinguished background in global climatology . . . . he's just another in a long line of armchair pseudo-scientists who keeps googling for research on the ole inner-net. And then burping it up on a fishing website and hoping for support. Fascinating stuff.

Avoiding content yet again. There's not much to address in what you've said that makes any difference.

If you don't think climate change...and environmental science is relevant to fishing you're simply wrong. As for support, that's pretty much irrelevant. As for science and pseudo science. Yes, I've got some credentials. Some of them pertain to this topic. Apparently that makes me a liar and a thief so it's hard to know what difference that would make to you.

As usual, your intent is to poison the discussion and get it banned. You've done it before. You're doing it again.

Yes, OF, the threads that get axed this is how it happens. Just like clockwork.

[Feathers and Fins]

No, again, in my eyes everything is geared toward man generating an abundance of CO2. The money is going to grease palms more than anything else and the track record reflects it. I've said before the system simply isn't addressing the problem to solve it, but to exploit it. Where's the progress in the holy graph?

Is it acceptable in the scientific community now to hold research from anyone who might find fault with it? Is it acceptable to replace lost data arbitrariy? Do you, or would you? EA isn't addressing children who should be seen and not heard.

I want to see things being done to at least soften the blow for my descendents when we realize we can't roll back the clock.

Wayne I agree with almost everything you said and will add that all the data in the world being spewed and that is what it is at this point is subjective. There is not a control group and without said control group all science in global warming is IMO subjective to the interpitation of the people reviewing it and based on the research I have seen lends toward the funders of the research.

Now that said 1 degree over 300 years with the advancement in technologies in that time frame and CO build up would be expected! But we also have started to see andvancement in technologies that are less intrusive taking hold and though it is a slow process just has the CO rise and the Temp rise was the decline may well be slow. We can replant the forrest and we can find alternitive means of energy that are less intusive and we are!

But I am one person that thinks these silly studies are a waiste of money that can be better used for better things. Say like cancer research, diabetes research, and the list goes on. It is very low on the list of things i would be concerned with. How about protecting the Bluefin Tuna or which is critical. Global warming to me is a waiste of money that can be best used elsewhere.

[Tim Smith]

No, again, in my eyes everything is geared toward man generating an abundance of CO2. The money is going to grease palms more than anything else and the track record reflects it. I've said before the system simply isn't addressing the problem to solve it, but to exploit it. Where's the progress in the holy graph?

Is it acceptable in the scientific community now to hold research from anyone who might find fault with it? Is it acceptable to replace lost data arbitrariy? Do you, or would you? EA isn't addressing children who should be seen and not heard.

I want to see things being done to at least soften the blow for my descendents when we realize we can't roll back the clock.

Wait. You want a market solution, but putting money toward the problem corrupts the solution???

Completely inconsistent.

You want progress toward correcting a graph that a majority of Americans will not even look at. We haven't even started working on this problem in a serious way yet. It's not possible to respect your view on that. It's not possible to take it seriously.

If you want to discuss the East Anglia issue with specifics then do it.

[ness]

Whaddya think, Cold? Wanna blow this thing up?

[Tim Smith]

. How about protecting the Bluefin Tuna or which is critical. Global warming to me is a waiste of money that can be best used elsewhere.

What do you think is going to happen to the bluefin tuna once the climate warms 3 degrees? Or Ozark trout for that matter. You haven't even begun to think seriously about this topic.

In the Caribbean, where I've done actual work in this field, they're expecting to spend 25% of their GDP by 2050 patching themselves back together from sea level rise, storms and drought and trying to keep their industries alive.

How many problems that take up 25% of the GDP don't deserve any attention?

[Feathers and Fins]

Tim I will just make a very uncarring observation here. You keep talking about this thread getting yanked but it appears you are the one attacking everyone who does not side or agree with you. It is very difficult to carry on a discussion with someone who is the insulter to all those who dont agree with them.

[ColdWaterFshr]

This debate lost interest for me somewhere back in maybe 2003. You really can't separate it from politics and it's just become a horse that both parties like to ride . . . and also for uh, lots and lots of pseudo-scientists with a smattering of global climate credentials.

Cork the volcanoes, and everyone drive a Prius so that next year it might be a little cooler when we decide to go Occupy something.

[ColdWaterFshr]

Whaddya think, Cold? Wanna blow this thing up?

No, but Paul does.

[Tim Smith]

Whaddya think, Cold? Wanna blow this thing up?

Heck of a lot easier than manning up and facing your issues.

[ColdWaterFshr]

Indeed. Paul has a lot of issues. But for taking on fishing website climatologists, now for that he is going to need a better trainer. Is Burgess Meredith still around?