Feathers and Fins Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/familys-home-raided-over-facebook-photo-of-childs-rifle.html Seriously, this is getting out of hand! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
fishinwrench Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Nappen said they are considering taking legal action against the state for the late night raid. Waste of time and money. He was hotlined and it is their appointed job to investigate, heads would have rolled if they hadn't. So why "tie up the courts" with bs?
Jack Jones Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 This time I agree. I understand that they have to investigate every allegation. I'm okay with that. Without knowing more about what was alleged it's tough to say what the agency was going off of. If it was just the picture, that's not enough in my mind. Unfortunately, we'll never know. As for the police, that kind of behavior from them is typical of the jack-boot thuggery that they usually employ. Remember....in the eyes of a law enforcement and those who prosecute it is always considered suspicious when a citizen seeks to exercise their Constitutional rights. Unfortuately, no crimes were committed and there wasn't necessarily any abuse of discretion because the cops can ask you anything and request anything. It's up to you to assert your rights in the face of their intimidation. A lawsuit would be a waste of time and simply perpetuates the cycle. While what happened was wrong, I think the homeowner is being a little overzealous. "Thanks to Mother Mercy, Thanks to Brother Wine, Another night is over and we're walking down the line" - David Mallett
Feathers and Fins Posted March 20, 2013 Author Posted March 20, 2013 The only thing I see a lawsuit doing any good for is "possibly" getting politicians/lawmakers to ask why was a "PICTURE OF A GUN" enough grounds to solicit an investigation ""maybe"" requiring more rules for child services to follow before making a contact. Personal opinion on child services is they are a joke, and have way to much power. If a call is made about child abuse/neglect etc it should be sent to the POLICE and they should do the investigating. If a crime has been committed then get CS involved as the guardians of the childs rights and protection but not until the police have investigated as they will have to be involved in the event of a crime. I dealt with child services when i was keeping my snakes. They said my step-son was in danger after a call was made about it... Dispite fish and game and the American Zoological association inspections. Talk about a load of BS all because someones "opinion". It was thrown out but cost me thousands of dollars to fight. They have way to much power based souly on thier opinion. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
fishinwrench Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 CPS doesn't like to back off and admit that they wasted any time or resources on anyone. Apparently that doesn't lookgood on their end of year report....or whatever, so they'll try HARD to make a case on anything they possibly can. (Unlocked liquor cabinets, knives left laying on counters, ect.) I've heard some pretty rediculis accountings from folks who have had unjustified dealings with them. Makes me wonder if some regional agencies aren't in the adoption business or something.
Feathers and Fins Posted March 20, 2013 Author Posted March 20, 2013 Wrench I wonder about a lot of things about them. Most of the ones ive seen or dealt with have no clue about parenting or civil rights. When they tried to come in my house I told them blankoff... They called the police and I told the officer respectfully to get a warrant. He called Fish and Game who came out and did an inspection ( i was required to allow him in for that purpse ) we sat in my venom room for about an hour and half talking about the snakes and the awesome tarpon bite going on. Long story short the cps officer kept pushing the issue and causing us grief we ended up having to get a lawyer and have a judge issue a order keeping them from harassing us any further. What it came down to was the judge actually coming to the house and seeing the set-up. He ended up in there for 3 hours fascinated by the animals asking me more question than i got on earth day events lol. Look up Floridas Venomous Permit system and keeping laws. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
jdmidwest Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 What is this Facebook thing? Sounds like a hassle.... "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Gavin Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 You gotta be a be a doofus numbnuts to post your guns and your future vacation plans of Facebook....The CPS & Cops...walked...bit of a hassle but a tempest in a teapot.
Feathers and Fins Posted March 21, 2013 Author Posted March 21, 2013 Na you gotta be a moron to not set privacy settings so only your friends/family can see it... I dont let anyone see mine thats not a friend or family. Great tool for keeping in touch but also no way im going to have 1000+ friends if i dont know you you dont get on mine... Heck bad enough I have to suffer through Duckys pictures that make me cry lol. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
duckydoty Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Heck bad enough I have to suffer through Duckys pictures that make me cry lol. I seem to suffer through more picture posts from you than anyone else. You're about the only one that can really kick me when it hurts! A Little Rain Won't Hurt Them Fish.....They're Already Wet!! Visit my website at.. Ozark Trout Runners
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