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There is a huge difference in a 5 inch and a 4 inch. The difference is in the rate of fall. At only an inch, the size really does not matter. For Once. It is the rate that the grub gets to the desired depth. If it is windy, it is very hard right now to get that 5 incher down to the 18 to 22 ft. range that is required. The 4 inch with not nearly so much tail or soft bulk will drop to the desired depth much quicker.

Say you have a 15 to 20 MPH wind as we had today and you have to fish with the wind which I hate, but sometimes have to do. You would with the line bow and the bulk of the 5 inch grub would have been in trouble.

For suspended fish on calmer water the 5 inch is great, as it stays and falls slower thru the strike zone. Again that inch is not a problem K's here have no problem snarfing a 7 inch swimbait at times.

The rate of decent is most of the difference on the 4 or 5 inch.

Good LUCk

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Thanks Bill. I will give em a shot and hope for the best. There must be a lot of people reading your reports cuz every decent color of 4 inchers was sold out at HL&S.

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Mark at Table Rock Tackle and Marine has the best colors of Yamamoto in stock. I hope. I know he has went thru hundreds of bags the last month. Might give them a call. He will also order them for you and have them to pick up. I'm pretty sure you can order from BP or Cabelas and get them in a day or two. This grub bite is not going away thru June, so might want to get geared up. Also you can order direct from Chompers. That smoke black fleck is pretty good and the salt and pepper is as good as it gets.

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Mark's shop is one of the handful of places that usually has some smoke red flake available. Tough color to find for whatever reason. He also usually has some plain smoke in the GYCB which is nice when the sky is bright and the water is clear.

If you are in Springfield, Sportsman's seems to have a good selection. Also had the Chompers smoke red in the 5". I did not buy them all. Some, not all.

On the size thing, I normally scrub the 5" grubs with a 5/16oz wire guard or 3/8oz dart to help get around the wind issue Bill brought up. When it is dragging the bottom I like that bigger tail making more commotion. Throw it, keep the bail open and put the rod tip right at the surface while it falls. Prefer the 4" for straight swimming, and also like to use it more or less like a spinnerbait when fish are up and on beds. Throw it at the bank and wind it over the beds. Shallower version of the same swimming deal, with 1/8oz or 1/4oz heads.

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Im with dtrs, I switch from the 4 to 5 alot. If I cant get the bow out of my line as Bill said, simply use a slightly bigger head.

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Quillback, it's interesting that you mention Yamamoto web site/company. Earlier this year I found out in contacting GYCB that they have discontinued some colors, one of which was one of their most outstanding grub colors.

Haven't gone out of my way to spread the word, but it now being discontinued, I would like to bring more attention to it thinking it could spur more interest in bringing it back.

The bait is the Yamamoto Super Grub 5" in color Clear with Large Silver Flake, Yamamoto code 18-20-136. It is just flat-out SILVER. If there is a better imitator of threadfin for use when bass are aggressively feeding on them, I don't know what it is. I'm sure many of you have seen or used this color. My friends, family and I have used it extensively over a many year period. Can't count how many times we've landed a bass spitting up shad, and when grub and shad lay side-by-side, have been amazed at how that color simulates the bait fish look, and apparently the fish agreed.

My friends and I have scoured bait shops and web sites and rounded up most of the 5" we could find. Still some 4" around I think. In conversations brother had with Mark at Table Rock B&T, if there was a big enough demand, a special order could be made up by GYCB. Don't remember how many but quite a few bags of grubs though, as I recall. Hoping Mark is holding our with some in his personal stash.

I know there are similar colors with L.Silver Flake and Salt/Pepper that I may have to go with in the future. Luckily I have a fair inventory of 18-20-136. Really want to try that Smoke with Copper, sounds "HOT".

Yamamoto 4"ers are good baits but the very narrow connector of tail to body causes too many tail "bite-offs". Short tail life is only reason I avoid the 4".

Long-winded...Yes. Good fishing all. Be back at the lake few days from now!

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I have never fished that color, but I'd be happy to shoot them an email asking them to make some 18-20-136, enough guys do it and maybe they'll run a batch, it would probably help if as part of the request that we make a commitment to buy X number of bags direct from GYCB.

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Is BP carrying Yamamoto baits? I know they were the best place to find them and then suddenly they disapeared for a few years. I know they have Kanami. Is that Gary's Son's company.

I have ordered some stuff from Gary's site and was really not very satisfied with the time it took to receive the merchandise. On three different orders. TWarehouse gets it to you NOW.

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