Pond Lure Suggesstions

[jpb2187]

I was hoping to get some advice for a pond that I fish frequently. The issue with this pond as with most I'm sure is the amount of vegetation in the pond. The shoreline is pretty much clear for about 1-2 feet then is either covered by moss or submerged pond weed that extends anywhere from 5-10-20 feet. This covers nearly the entire E,S, and W sides of the pond. It clears out a little bit on the Northwest corner..

I have been having the most succes using a senko and a shallow topwater/crankbait ( the Heddon Swimin/Spittin Image? can't remember - it basically floats and when retrieved will dive about 1-2 ft with a wide wobble.)

I catch them right on the edges of the pondweed when I can find it, if i get the senko to fall right on the edge, or if i burn the crankbait right on the outskirts of the pondweed. The issue is that is is hard to find castable areas that i can run the crankbait by the cover. It usually just ends up covered in pondweed.

I'm almost positive they are all haning out on the outer edge of the pondweed that faces the center of the lake, but i can't get good presentations to this area.

Spinnerbaits and other topwaters (Frogs, buzzbaits, rapalas) haven't been very effective.

Any ideas?

[jpb2187]

Anyone?

[Nick Williams]

I would have said a frog, however you said that's not working. My next one is a small white grub with a light jig head. Falls real slow and retrieved real slow is when I pick up most fish.

[moguy1973]

Is it a slimy moss or a weed like hydrilla? If its hydrilla you might be able to use a heavy 1oz+ weight and a creature or beaver style bait to punch through to where the fish are hiding. If its the slimy moss there's not much you can do. There's a nice park near me that has both and the slimy moss is frustrating because I have to clean off whatever lure I am using after each cast it seems.

[jpb2187]

Yeah, I've tried out some weightless flukes and I have gotten some hits. I'm sure part of it is just the sheer amount of pressure it gets. They probably see about 1000 lures everyday.

[Flysmallie]

When a senko, crankbait, frog and spinnerbait are taken out of the possible answers you don't leave yourself with much. One spinnerbait you probably haven't considered is a snagless sally. Used to catch a lot of fish in the ponds of Oklahoma. Yeah it's not much to look at but it does work well where vegetation is an issue.

Tried a buzzbait? That should be working well about now, especially on a pond.

And ditch the senko for a floating worm. It's a smaller profile so it get's around the weeds easier, weighs less so it goes over better and it just works better in those conditions. They make a lot of colors but pink works well and it's easy for you to see. Work it along the edge and if there are fish there they will hit it.

I'd wear that weedline out before I started trying to fish on the bottom.

[jpb2187]

It's not very slimy, more weedish. Almost web like. Looks like this http://cdn.thepondguy.com/images/QAplcharapic.jpg I think its just one of those things I'm gonna have to deal with, I would try to go to other ponds, but this one has the biggest fish of them all!

[mic]

I'm not having much luck on topwater either. Don't give up on the frog. Wait for it to warm up some more and try again. I was out last night at a pond that the ower says is great for late night top water bite every year, and didn't get a bite. Moved below water, and started catching fish right away. I think it is still to cold at night.

[moguy1973]

It's not very slimy, more weedish. Almost web like. Looks like this http://cdn.thepondguy.com/images/QAplcharapic.jpg I think its just one of those things I'm gonna have to deal with, I would try to go to other ponds, but this one has the biggest fish of them all!

That's coontail, and a pretty good weed to have around as bass love to live in that stuff...

[Old plug]

You need a buzz bait. I do not like Ouse them but there is nothing in the world like them. Something about that big flippity flip flip and bubbles that really excites them. You need to use it very early and late in the day if the pond is clear. I would try a 1/4 oz because they stay up on top easier.