1969Larson Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 'Cause competition makes us all better. If you haven't noticed, with very few exceptions, we develop the medicines and technology the entire world enjoys. Chocolate chip, please.
Feathers and Fins Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Here's one for you. We, the Democrats, took the Single Payer system out of the ACA to receive the needed votes. If anyone can give me a real reason, not some party line nonsensical bullspit reason why we are the ONLY. civilized nation without a national health system, you win a cookie. Ok ill bite, How about this The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; Under Obamacare not all taxes are uniform as prescribed by law. Furthermore the BILL, Was touted as NOT A TAX and therefore should after supreme court affirmation of it being a tax gone back to House for them to vote on as a "TAX" as prescribed by the constitution. As the house is by law the originator of all taxes/bills. Had it been done this way it would never have passed. I am honestly surprised no one has gone after it on this bases as it is constitutional. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
SmallyWally Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Here is a four letter word for you......SOCIALISM. Regarding the single payer....The Democrats ran the House,Senate and had the Presidency at the time and still could not get the votes. That should say something about single-payer. Kindness is the language the blind can see and the deaf can hear.-- Mark Twain
1969Larson Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Right on. And the only problem with socialism is... Eventually you run out of other people's money.
Jerry Rapp Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 thanks 1969 and F&F. Has to be a top 10 post of 2013! Prairie Creek is for sale... http://fayar.craigslist.org/reb/4108230668.html
jdmidwest Posted October 5, 2013 Author Posted October 5, 2013 Here's one for you. We, the Democrats, took the Single Payer system out of the ACA to receive the needed votes. If anyone can give me a real reason, not some party line nonsensical bullspit reason why we are the ONLY. civilized nation without a national health system, you win a cookie. If Obamacare succeeds, private insurance agencies will cease to exist under the current models of prediction. The only insurer will be the Federal Government, ie, single payer. No competition and requirements to have insurance will end up with higher prices. So, How Exactly, did they take it out of Obamacare? "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
drew03cmc Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 It was intended to be the centerpiece, not an eventual end point. How is it that we are the only first world nation where people go bankrupt and lose everything from $300 aspirin? A major part of this bill is the reining in of costs and dictating that 80% of premiums go to care, NOT CEO bonuses. Andy
1969Larson Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 $300 aspirin don't bakrupt people, but cancer and a few other very expensive conditions sometimes DO. These are called catostrauphic events. There has always been insurance to cover this type of scenario and it is very affordable. Priorities, man.
ness Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 This thread has gone down the path of no return. Not only am I done posting pictures of puppies, I'm not even going to read anymore. Have fun. John
1969Larson Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 It is easy to get frustrated and tune out. I don't blame you. However, this is a very big deal - way more important than a political party issue.
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