Nucanoe

[Mitch f]

However, my brother flips all the time when in the canoe with me. He is using a 6 ft. rod compared to my 5.5 footers, and likes to flip jigs. I'm in the back of the canoe keeping it a normal short cast length, 25-35 feet, off the banks, and he gets that distance sitting down. Four feet or so of line off the end of the rod, lure in hand, underhand swing forward while releasing the spool, with a 1/4 ounce jig it'll go out there.

What you're describing is pitching, not flipping. I can kind of do a hybrid pitch, like your brother but I can't fully pitch the standard way unless I'm standing up. But your brother's probably a lot better than me so maybe he can pull it off. IMO, the most effective way of doing it is standing with you rod tip pointing down, almost touching the water and swinging the rod 90 degrees to the boat. The lure flies parallel to the surface of the water as much as possible. This helps the soft landing. It also helps if your trying to skip a lure under something. The steeper the angle the lure enters the water, the bigger potential for a hard landing. Slightly sliding the lure to its destination is the best way to land. Flipping is totally different, with a fixed line length.

[Goggle-Eyed]

I agree with Old Plug and Mitch on their descriptions of pitching and flipping. Both of which I personally need to be standing to execute properly, well even then I am not that great at it, I can't imagine trying it sitting down. I even struggle to pitch when standing in the "bottom" of my boat not up on a seat or deck.

[fishinwrench]

Yep ^^^ I'm normally standing, with one foot on the gunnel. Palm down/reel handle pointing down/ elbow only slightly lower than my shoulder. The hips and the wrist are all that pivot.

I'd suck at it (distance-wise) if I was sitting and couldn't use my hips in the process.

[Old plug]

Mitch i am sure you can pitch. Like I say I do it to conserve pressure on my junky shoulders. But i do think it is very accurate. When you first start out it is well to have a rod and reel that match the lure weight your trying to pitch. Not to stiff and not to limber. After you do it for awhile it will not matter. I do most of mine with a fast reel with the backlash function off and a well educated thumb. The line is leaving for the target at a gentile rate of speed so its not hard. a.so when the lure hits the water your in immediate control since your thumb is on the spool.

if the reel is fast enough you can just hold the lure in your finger with the rod straight out from you body and let itI swing down giving it a gentile upward movement with your wrist at the right time and the lure will almost float out to the target.

line skipping is really a all together different skill. it require more power than pitching. my pitching never comes in low to the water. I have a friend that throws jigs etc thru the openings in the flotation on docks. from 10 to 15 ft out all he does is hang some line down from the rod tip and swing the jig out. he throws it in such a way that the line and jig are in a arch that would look like it would lay the jig down at a a inch or so inside the opening. but because of the way it is going the jig passes the opening and the line hits the bottom of the dock frame between the floatation. This causes the jig to rise up and pass a lot further into the opening. When I see him doing that it seems so easy and smooth. Let me tell you it is anything but easy. i have never mastered it and gave up trying. He calls this skipping. But its something between pitching and flipping. I have seen anyone else do it.I would just call it Lee's way.

[Chief Grey Bear]

I. do not do a lot flipping except in back of docks over cables. Those cast are from about 15-20 ft max. pitching however is something I use a lot party because of bad shoulders. Also like to fish the back corners of dock earlier in the season and I think i can cause a disturbance buy going back between the docks with a boat so I stand off and pitch. I use a preferably a 7 ft rod with a very fast reel bait casting reel on it . Most of these cast or from 30 to 35 ft. from me to the target. I think pitching can be much more accurate than regular casting at that range for me. not to mention saving stress on the shoulder.

chief were on different wave lengths.

I misunderstood your post.

I thought you were flipping 15-20ft and pitching 30-35ft.

Carry on.

[David Unnerstall]

I am comfortable sitting down in my 13-ft solo. I can do a side-arm cast that has a similiar effect as pitching/flipping. But I don't do a lot of pitching//flipping in my bassboat.

[Old plug]

Chief. The guy I mentioned mentioned in the above post and his system of what he called skipping is a good example of trying to define what we all might do a bit different. I have never been able to master that whatever it is and he has moved far away. But I have never seen anyone else do that. If was something he just picked up more or less natural. Lets face it ,why worry about what it is as long as it works for you. I do not worry about it. I go fishing number one to enjoy myself and number two catch fish and not worry about proper etiquette and form in my cast.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Personally just between me and you, I don't think there is much if any real difference between the two.

One is free spooled and one ain't.

I don't myself get all that techy about which is which. It's all good with me.

[fishinSWMO]

Flipping is a lot different than pitching.

Flipping is easily done sitting or standing, basic get your bait where you want it as if you were using a cane pole but with the line in hand for adjustments.

Pitching is done standing, mostly bass boat. Lure in hand at first, precise underarm casting.

[Chief Grey Bear]

I guess it depends on how you look at it.