Spy Baiting

[Guest]

My problem with floro on spinning outfits is that it "slaps" the rod blank as it's shooting thru the first guide. This reduced casting distance substantially.

I never thought about the 2500 size reel as the problem with line twist & jump offs. That makes sense to use a wider diameter spool for the Florocarbon.

As for jigs, I'm using 20lb red label seaguar.

It's cheap and stout as an oxe.

I only fish heavy wire hooks for FB heads & Texas rigs. I'm using it on a Heavy action Falcon Cara head turner.

Red label passed the test on an extended fight with a 30lb catfish last summer. So I highly recommend that size line.

[Guest]

Ham,

I'm going to the elk river tomorrow to tangle with those big river bass. They will break most any line, bunch of line busting mules.

Nanofil will be put to an extreme test in the logjams & boulders.

So far, a 4lber is the biggest bass I've landed with the Ned. I've broken off a 7lbr at the boat already this year. It was "that" fish.

[Ham]

Ham,

I'm going to the elk river tomorrow to tangle with those big river bass. They will break most any line, bunch of line busting mules.

Nanofil will be put to an extreme test in the logjams & boulders.

So far, a 4lber is the biggest bass I've landed with the Ned. I've broken off a 7lbr at the boat already this year. It was "that" fish.

Hey Man, Good Luck. Sorry about your 7 lber. I've been pretty lucky with the big bass I've had hooked, but I've lost some fish that I never saw that haunt me. One in New York's Lake Chautauqua in particular another in the Red River in Louisiana. What and how impossibly big?

[dtrs5kprs]

My problem with floro on spinning outfits is that it "slaps" the rod blank as it's shooting thru the first guide. This reduced casting distance substantially.

I never thought about the 2500 size reel as the problem with line twist & jump offs. That makes sense to use a wider diameter spool for the Florocarbon.

As for jigs, I'm using 20lb red label seaguar.

It's cheap and stout as an oxe.

I only fish heavy wire hooks for FB heads & Texas rigs. I'm using it on a Heavy action Falcon Cara head turner.

Red label passed the test on an extended fight with a 30lb catfish last summer. So I highly recommend that size line.

Trophy...that sounds more like a guide size/spacing issue than an FC problem.

[Guest]

The biggest drawback to braid is that my elbow tendon gets inflamed quite often.

So I never set the hook, but use the reel to crank down on them. That's why I like the Stradic so much. Maybe I should try the Lews you mentioned.

As for spy baiting, I know a spot at the elk that sets up for that.

[kjackson]

My problem with floro on spinning outfits is that it "slaps" the rod blank as it's shooting thru the first guide. This reduced casting distance substantially.

I never thought about the 2500 size reel as the problem with line twist & jump offs. That makes sense to use a wider diameter spool for the Florocarbon.

While I have yet to fish it, I just spooled some of the new Trilene fluorocarbon intended for use on spinning reels. It's Trilene Professional Grade XL (the XL designation is important). I loaded the reel to the lip of the spool and had no issues with the line coiling or jumping. Whether that will be the case with use, I don't know. I do know it behaves a lot like Trilene XL, and that line is very limp.

[dtrs5kprs]

While I have yet to fish it, I just spooled some of the new Trilene fluorocarbon intended for use on spinning reels. It's Trilene Professional Grade XL (the XL designation is important). I loaded the reel to the lip of the spool and had no issues with the line coiling or jumping. Whether that will be the case with use, I don't know. I do know it behaves a lot like Trilene XL, and that line is very limp.

Let us know. Used to run the old Carbon Pro with minimal trouble, switched to Invizx when it was dc'd. The Invizx handles better, but is not even close in terms of abrasion resistance or strength. The old stuff was like wire, albeit invisible, and you had to handle it correctly to make it work. Wasn't hard, just had to do it.

Think a lot of folks had bad experiences with the old FC's, and the cheap ones (not necessarily price), and gave all of them a bad rap.

[Mitch f]

Great report Ham, I noticed the video with Japanese translation recommend 4-5 pound test and not 6..... Perhaps that bait is very sensitive to line diameter.

[Ham]

Hey Mitch,

4 lb line might be optimal, but I'm going to go with 8 lb first and drop down to 6 lb IF I must.

[dtrs5kprs]

Hey Mitch,

4 lb line might be optimal, but I'm going to go with 8 lb first and drop down to 6 lb IF I must.

Yep. I just spooled some 4#, but that is for playing with fish on plastics after catching enough other ways. $12 a pop and 4# line do not belong in the same sentence.