Kimberling City Quickie

[OldMillRoad]

We were on the north side just east of Joe Bald, Bill. But it was probably the same jackwagon.

[Old plug]

I wonder if you all really know how the mossy goo gets there. the area bill refers to is in the more populated area of Table Rock if i am correct. you got all kind of homes and businesses all over the place. That mossy goo comes from more than lawn some guy on the lake having a although it may very well contribute to it. A lot depends on the number and sized of trees on that lot. Lawn fertilizer for the most part does not run off the problem is it goes into the ground and the soils are such in this region that many of the nutrients are striped away from the plants by rain water before they can be utilized buy the surface plants. It then pass though and come up in the lake. But by far the worse thing is sewage. You might think it is the people in the homes around the lake are the ones responsible for all of it. I got news for you. When sewage enters the ground from any system it is stuck there. It will go into the rocky quaffers and from there it can and will travel for long distances. And through hydraulics it can even be forced upward. I can guarantee you as Table Rock develops lake front and otherwise your going to see more and more of that green slimy stuff. Ground water pollution is a major problem in this country. as much as a lot of people on here feel they are above things like LOZ. Your not your just newer. Myself I am on the M county County sewer district sewer system. I also do bot have green moss Dave. But i do have a award winning garden. Of course I can see your point Dave. I a surprised at you you know what will happen when you spray the stuff off especially on rock???? it will run into the lake and then kill fish

I almost got a CCW permit but after looking at it from the legal perspective I decided it not to do it at least not in Missouri. With everyone running around with guns it is going to get to be like the old west. There are other concealed legal ways to stop a assailant. He may even wish you had shot him to for awhile. Most of these aggressive fishermen would be doing something else years ago. But how many of those on here promote bass tournaments and the competitiveness they spawn in the in what was a relaxing thing to do. So what can you expect. I had a problem with one other fisherman and that was a guy trolling for white bass across a popular shallow point that os popular spot for a lot of people. This guy was trolling a path about 200 yards long and give trying to make people get out of his way. I like to search for my own fish I believe it is part of fishing. I do bot post any reports are share spot info on here. I do share it with a very very few locales even then I do not expect them to tell me exactly where and when and what of some spot. I would feel like They caught the fish not me. There also seems to be some some discussion about far way is breaking in front of you. I do not fish banks I fish spots. and if I do fish a bank it is of bo worry to me if someone pulls in a in front of me. 99% of the they will be fishing to fast anyway. I have had people come up to within a few feet of me in other boats then sort of go around me slow and start in again. It does not bother me.

[Old plug]

I sent a delete for the first post i did on this but it did not delete. I wanted to re word it .

[REDSOXWSCHAMP]

I do know that lawn care companies have a barrier that they leave between a treated area and any source of water. so fertilizer runoff is not a problem.

[willyfish]

Did I see that right "REDSOXWSCHAMP" THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORDS AROUND THESE PARTS

[REDSOXWSCHAMP]

yeah you saw that right. i havent met anyone yet that really wants to fight about it, kinda funny.

[Guest]

I do know that lawn care companies have a barrier that they leave between a treated area and any source of water. so fertilizer runoff is not a problem.

That's funny right there.

[Old plug]

Yes they might do that. But I never seen them do it here. It might be a Corp requirement and also because of steep inclines. i do not have that I also water mine in as soon as it is put down. If i stay here a few more year ( and thats doubtful) I will be using anymore fertilizer. The whole lawn will be converted to perry winkle. It is a good alternate ground cover. that would be what I would do down there. But the problem is a lot more than lawns.

[REDSOXWSCHAMP]

Yes they might do that. But I never seen them do it here. It might be a Corp requirement and also because of steep inclines. i do not have that I also water mine in as soon as it is put down. If i stay here a few more year ( and thats doubtful) I will be using anymore fertilizer. The whole lawn will be converted to perry winkle. It is a good alternate ground cover. that would be what I would do down there. But the problem is a lot more than lawns.

exactly , livestock runoff is a big problem.

[Bill Babler]

Plug we may not know what we are talking about, but about 4 yrs. ago, we had a lake meeting here with the COE, and the Missouri Dept. of Natural Resources. There was also a member of the EPA at the meeting and they without a doubt said not one of the causes but the Number 1 cause of nutrients in the water on Table Rock Lake was fertilizer runoff from lawns. and fertilization in and around private homes.

The composition of an extremely small topsoil layer that is then next to a red clay layer in 90% of this area allows for very low absorption of the fertilizer. Any type of rain will then let the fertilizer travel great distances under the topsoil layer along the top of the clay layer.

My old notes from the meeting said anything within 1/2 mile of the lake can easily reach it.

Here is another factor on Table Rock, as you know we have a COE setback and very much unlike Lake of the Ozarks this area is not comprised of septic fields to the extent that you are. Most developments here have pump stations and septic plants. There are a few septic fields here but not 1% of what you have up there.

We have an evaporation field on our 40 acres. It is designed to not have the waste go down, The solids are collected in a tank and the evaporation field is very shallow sub-surface to send the liquids up thru evaporation rather than into the ground. Yes there is a land requirement for this but both Stone and Taney Co. are all about this. Especially Stone County that is very progressive. Yes this can only be used in larger area, as my evaporation field is a full 2 acres, and is located over 100 yrds from the house. This was extremely expensive, but the right thing to do.