5bites Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Quality plays a big role. Shooter 20lb diameter is .0146" and 10lb is .0102". Trilene 100% 15lb is .015 as is viscous 15lb. 10lb trilene is .012" Shooter is waaaaaay high but so far I love it. Tatsu is also a good line. Sorry if this was brought up. I kinda skimmed.
moguy1973 Posted August 21, 2014 Posted August 21, 2014 I agree wholeheartedly. I always try to fish the heaviest line i can get away with. But like Al mentioned some lures require lighter lines to work properly. For Bass fishing, my spinning gear is always 8 lb P-Line CX Premium, and my casting gear is 10,12, or 15 lb P-Line CX Premium. Crappie/Bluegill gear is 4 or 6 lb P-Line CX Premium. Catfish is 15-20 lb Berkley Big Game. Walleye is 15/4 braid. Cranking the "big" river for anything that will bite is also 15/4 braid. That's about the extent species I target. If I fished trout, I would use 2 lb. The bold is my set up also. I also have some 20lb Tuf-Line SuperCast braid on another rod that I use for topwater and frogs. Doesn't matter what the water clarity is. The A-Rig took away that myth for me. If a fish is hungry its going to eat no matter what the bait is attached to. -- JimIf people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles. -- Doug Larson
Ham Posted August 21, 2014 Posted August 21, 2014 The bold is my set up also. I also have some 20lb Tuf-Line SuperCast braid on another rod that I use for topwater and frogs. Doesn't matter what the water clarity is. The A-Rig took away that myth for me. If a fish is hungry its going to eat no matter what the bait is attached to. I'm not taking issue with you, but I am taking issue with this statement. Please go take a piece of wire 12 inches long and rig it to a finesse worm. Drag that along and see how many bites you get or take a foot long length of cord and tie it in front of a Pop R and see if that affects the number of bites you get. IMO, the draw of having multiple lures in a school overwhelms the effect of that heavy wire, bjut that does not invalidate the use of lighter line being important on other rigs. Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish
Al Agnew Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 I'm not taking issue with you, but I am taking issue with this statement. Please go take a piece of wire 12 inches long and rig it to a finesse worm. Drag that along and see how many bites you get or take a foot long length of cord and tie it in front of a Pop R and see if that affects the number of bites you get. IMO, the draw of having multiple lures in a school overwhelms the effect of that heavy wire, bjut that does not invalidate the use of lighter line being important on other rigs. That's an interesting take on it. My question is, would the 12 inch piece of wire on the finesse worm keep you from catching fish because the fish shy away from it, or because it would really mess up the movement of the finesse worm? Same thing with the cord and the Pop-R. I think that it IS certainly possible to use "line" heavy enough to scare away the fish, but I think that point comes not when the line becomes "visible" to the fish (any line is visible to the fish in clear water), but when the line becomes SO obvious that the fish's attention is drawn to the line rather than the lure, which is kinda what you're saying. In my opinion, you reach that point when you start fishing something like 20 pound test mono or a braid of something close to that diameter in clear water...the line sticks out like a sore thumb. But in the same clear water conditions, I highly doubt that the fish are going to be turned off by 8 pound test line while 4 pound test catches them like crazy.
Ham Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 On the finesse worm and wire, I think both. 20 lb Flurocarbon might be difficult for the fish to see, but it would still overpower the finesse bait and ruin a big part of what makes it attractive. With a big freaking piece of wire attached, you be hard pressed to catch pressured fish for sure. Most lures allow some leeway in fishing line used, but there is a place for 6 thru 20 lb in my fishing. Others can use what they please when they please. I spend a lot of time and energy trying to be a better fisherman, but it's nothing to get mad about. Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish
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