Guest Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Squirrel tails & robo worms kick butt, however they tear up easy. The squirrel tail floats due to its tail, but it also gets bitten off rather quickly. I will gladly trade you my squirrel tails for your zinker Z. the cow tounge & honcho are interesting japanese baits. I wonder if they lack durability.
dtrs5kprs Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Squirrel tails & robo worms kick butt, however they tear up easy. The squirrel tail floats due to its tail, but it also gets bitten off rather quickly. I will gladly trade you my squirrel tails for your zinker Z. the cow tounge & honcho are interesting japanese baits. I wonder if they lack durability. Wow, and you thought swimbaits were pricey...
Ham Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 I fish a wide variety of soft plastics on a wide variety of lead heads. They each have their charms or I wouldn't keep fishing them. Everyone is free to define a Ned rig anyway they want, but I have a more narrow definition of a Ned rig than some apparently. Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish
Chief Grey Bear Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Glad i'm not the only one who throws them every now and then. I usually have luck with the yellow and black in 1/8oz. The first time i took my wife fishing i tied a beetle spin on for her and she had a blast catching google eye. I also carry some of the older terminator inline spinners that Bill Dance used to promote. I think i've caught more catfish on those then bass lolThat's the exact color he uses also! Now as far as his whole "Ned" fiasco, I like it too. I must because like thousands of other fishermen, I've also been fishing it for the last 40 some years, long before anybody ever heard of Ned. It's nothing new for sure. And like Scott is doing, there is no set rules on to how it is rigged. You don't need a certain type of worm on a certain jig head finished on certain line with a certain reel on a certain rod in certain water. Some here have a way over engineered it. Nobody has ever made the wheel any rounder. Maybe prettier but not rounder. It's just simply a piece of soft plastic, mainly in the form of a worm, stuck on any size any color of Jig head. Fish it in whatever waters you want. Do just like Scott is doing, experiment with it. If you think one way seems to work better continue to do that. If you have certain colors that you have more confidence in, use those colors. There are no set standards. Heloman 1 Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
Guest Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Yep its been around for ages, but elaztech & improved jigheads have advanced the technique. Wheel is still round, but faster & more efficient.
Chief Grey Bear Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 The wheel is only as fast as what propels it. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
Chief Grey Bear Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 I use the full length elaztech sticks on a shakey head as a change up. Have not seen it catch bigger fish in general, still a lot of 15"-18" fish, but the catch rate plummets. Catch rates on 15"to 18" bass will seem to plummet due to the fact that there are not anywhere near as many fish in that size range as there are in the size range from 10" to 14". Bass in the 7 to 14 inch range tend to make up about 80%+ of the population in a given stream mile. Now don't quote me exactly on that, but from the many sampling reports that I have read, they tend to follow that line closely. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
hoglaw Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Why is it that every time there's a discussion about the "Ned rig" folks have to jump all over it? I'm not a hater or a fanboy..yet. I owe a lot of fish at the hot lake to the ned when I couldn't get them to bite on much else on a few bluebird days. I don't think it will ever replace my standards in the creek, but I'll give them a fair shot this year. But still, it seems like every time folks have to talk about how it's not really new. I think Babler even uses a different name for it as if to show he's known about this longer than the rest of the Johnny-come-latelys. When the A-rig got big, folks were saying "umbrella rigs have been around for a long time." The whole thing is like if I were to tell someone I really liked X band, and they said "well I liked them before they were cool." You know that guy?
hoglaw Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Catch rates on 15"to 18" bass will seem to plummet due to the fact that there are not anywhere near as many fish in that size range as there are in the size range from 10" to 14". Bass in the 7 to 14 inch range tend to make up about 80%+ of the population in a given stream mile. Now don't quote me exactly on that, but from the many sampling reports that I have read, they tend to follow that line closely. Pretty sure he's not talking about stream fish. Might be wrong though.
Chief Grey Bear Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Pretty sure he's not talking about stream fish. Might be wrong though. I thought about that after I hit send. I'll take my lumps on that one. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
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