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5 bites,

Can you tell me why using the Kentuckies on Table Rock is not a good argument? If my memory serves me correctly there were only 3% of the Bass population in the lake when it was built that were Kentuckies. Now it is at almost 28 %. This does not count the Kentucky/Largemouth crosses or the Kentucky/ Smallmouth crosses. Please tell me the reason for the comment... maybe I am not understanding your angle of thought.

Walcrabass

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Because the kentuckys at table rock are fat and fun n to catch. They bring a different element to the fishing there. They expand on the talent and require an individual to be a more well educated fisherman to compete. They're beautiful fish there and I enjoy catching them. If they weren't there when the lmbv hit table rock would have been in even extremely much worse shape. Due to that though another type of angle came out of the ordeal. More people learned how to fish deeper. I'd catch largemouth out of willows all day if I could but I'll never ever complain about catching a 3lb spot.

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5 bites,

Thank you for the reply. Everything you say has some merit. The 3 pound spot you catch might have false teeth though from old age. I will have to say though from my experience the Kentuckies are much easier to catch. Thus not requiring as much talent. I fish Table Rock quite a lot myself.

Walcrabass

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I talked to The creel survey guys a couple of weeks ago. One of the fellows in their boat was the biologist for stockton. He explained about the spots growing so slow. I told him we were all for 12" limit on spotted bass. He also mentioned Stockton is as good as it has ever been for big bass. Said the number of big fish from 08 is just astonishing.

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LVN2fish,

Thank you VERY MUCH for your intelligent response on the Kentucky Bass. We will reap HUGE rewards from this in the future. I hope it goes state wide and not just for Stockton. Did you get the biologist' name or email?

Walcrabass

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I'm not against a 12" spot limit on Stockton. I am on table rock though adamantly and absolutely. It will cause confusion on what people keep though. You and I know the difference. Yes it's not that hard. Some will take advantage of it though.

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5bites,

As the Spots are removed from Table Rock the "hole" they leave will be largely filled by the Largemouth Bass. My hope is that the genetic pool there is not already so polluted with Kentucky crosses that we may be already a tad too late with this rule change. In the 1960 era 10 pound bass were a regularity at Table Rock. I have read articles in the past of people catching several in the same year. Hopefully this kind of fishing can return......maybe have to institute slot limit as well to get it done.

Walcrabass

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Just because spots get replaced by largemouth doesn't equal a better fishery. A 4lb spot is more fun to catch and prettier than a 4lb largemouth imo. A diverse fishery isn't a bad thing. As was stated above the conversation is claiming that Stockton is in better shape now than it has been in years. This despite the kentuckys.

Why don't we get rid of the smallmouth too? Or walleye? Crappie? A hog pit lake would be a blast but it will never happen here. Try as they might Texas isn't even getting it done.

This is mostly just my opinion. I'm not trying to be argumentative.

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Good points 5bites. I'm not against them spots at all but I would like to see what the results would be. It might just be that some people are able to keep a few fish because they aren't able to catch and 15 inchers. Or maybe they take those spots instead of the fish that have the potential to grow bigger. I think you leave Table Rock as is though and only do this on Stockton for a trial.

And while I agree that I would rather catch a 4lb spot over a 4 lb largemouth, I also realize that my chances of catching a 4 lb largemouth are much, much greater than catching a 4 lb spot. I'm not convinced though that a largemouth is going to take the place of a spot though. They seem to live a little differently.

Texas may not be "getting it done" but it's a hell of a lot better there than it is here. But many things factor into that, not just species of fish.

Some of the most fun you can have in the summer is floating down the James river catching spots. You find one and you usually find a bunch. Easy to catch and a heck of a lot of fun.

 

 

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And while I agree that I would rather catch a 4lb spot over a 4 lb largemouth, I also realize that my chances of catching a 4 lb largemouth are much, much greater than catching a 4 lb spot. I'm not convinced though that a largemouth is going to take the place of a spot though. They seem to live a little differently.

That would be the biggest factor right there. Not that they never intermingle but often they choose different habitat.

With Texas yea I appreciate their effort no doubt. I do wonder how much of it is actually doing any good though as aposed to good regulations.

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