Amery Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Also they had no idea this system would move in 2 weeks later. It's a gamble, hold water/leave the gates open. I thought for sure after the last event that it would dry out. Imagine the criticism of they dropped it 15', then we entered a huge drought.
Feathers and Fins Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Phil, you chose to live there certainly and yes unforeseen events can cause it to happen, but in this case they have had 4 days advance notice something big was coming. That gave them 4 days and now its slowed down so actually 5 to 5.5 days to draw down lakes so it doesn't happen. When you can see potential coming take action to prevent potential problems and opening the gates at Beaver, Tablerock to make room for water is preventative measures. NOT opening them and preparing is negligence IMO. The wait and see approach is foolish, taking preparation or preventative measures is never foolish. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
dtrs5kprs Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Feeling kinda grumpy down here on the big flooded pond. I'm gonna have to fish Norfork today. I would love to have that problem. Anything I want to fish is 4 hours away, minimum. Leitsout 1
Amery Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Once again, if they draw it down and the system misses us, they will catch hell, don't draw it down, they catch hell. The COE cannot win. They are the professionals, they know what they're doing. Have you seen the forecast on this system? They don't know what it's going to do once it gets caught up in our jet stream. So the weather guy said 4 days ago that it was heading this way? Has the weather man ever been wrong?
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted June 17, 2015 Author Root Admin Posted June 17, 2015 Phil, you chose to live there certainly and yes unforeseen events can cause it to happen, but in this case they have had 4 days advance notice something big was coming. That gave them 4 days and now its slowed down so actually 5 to 5.5 days to draw down lakes so it doesn't happen. When you can see potential coming take action to prevent potential problems and opening the gates at Beaver, Tablerock to make room for water is preventative measures. NOT opening them and preparing is negligence IMO. The wait and see approach is foolish, taking preparation or preventative measures is never foolish. I've told this story before... worth repeating. In 2011, We'd been through the worse. They'd released enough water to put it in 3 of our units 20 inches deep. They had backed it off to less cfs for may be 5-8 days- I can't remember. Lakes were still over flood pool but dropping slowly. Then another storm approached. They were forecasting 5 inches of rain over the whole watershed, just like the other storms. Five inches would put us under for good. They saw it coming- may be 2-3 days ahead. The day before they were telling us to brace. The Corp never increased the flow. Their policy is not to run water on a forecast. Whether you agree or not, that's their policy. In this case, it saved us. It hardly rained at all. Dissipated. After that, it didn't rain all summer. Running more water means they'd open the gates to 20,000 cfs. While that's still manageable for us, it will keep many off the lake. Chances are we will see 20k in the coming days if we get a fraction of what they say is coming. Or we may not get any rain at all. Amery 1
Guest Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 I think it has more to do with the Arkansas River than anything else. Why is that? the White dumps directly into the Miss River, not the Arkansas.
dtrs5kprs Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Didn't mean to start a ruckus. Just surprised me they didn't try to get Beaver down a few more feet before closing things up.
Terrierman Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Why is that? the White dumps directly into the Miss River, not the Arkansas. Whoopise my bad. Still thinking flooding on the lower river is a major concern.
Feathers and Fins Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Whoopise my bad. Still thinking flooding on the lower river is a major concern. Hey if it happens there might be Ducks in the Delta this year. Ham, OldMillRoad and Squirrel Fishin' 3 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
roy_eros Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 There is a lot of good reading on the COE website about how they make their decisions. Like mentioned a lot hinges on the water level of the white river downstream. It looks like Newport is the gauge they use to evaluate water release from our lakes. It just now is getting back to a normal level and bull shoals is ramping up generation in the last few days. That will probably slow down with the rain.
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