bferg Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 Champ, Agree completely that it is primarily a staffing issue...lots of water to cover and not a lot of people to do it.
jolicious Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 35 minutes ago, Mike jones said: Better watch out Jo...commenting on this thread and acknowledging you fish summer tournaments may result in a tongue thrashing by someone....? Come by and say hi Saturday morning before take off if you see us. Hard to miss a Ranger 195 red/white with my 10 year old daughter in the passenger seat!! 1. It's all good if someone gets mad at me - that means someone else gets a break 2. We will look for you (My Beast is Legend 211 white cap / orange rear end) 3. In all honesty, we may also leave early to help my wife and 8 year old daughter at the Springdale Animal Shelter. Friday is lil bit's (our daughter) birthday. That little sweetie asked everyone to bring dog/cat food or a cash donation instead of presents. She said she has enough toys/books, and wants to help the pups and kittens that don't have a home. In case you are wondering, you bet your rear end I shed a few proud tears when she told me about her decision! Daryk Campbell Sr, Flysmallie, Mike jones and 1 other 4
Champ188 Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, jolicious said: 1. It's all good if someone gets mad at me - that means someone else gets a break 2. We will look for you (My Beast is Legend 211 white cap / orange rear end) 3. In all honesty, we may also leave early to help my wife and 8 year old daughter at the Springdale Animal Shelter. Friday is lil bit's (our daughter) birthday. That little sweetie asked everyone to bring dog/cat food or a cash donation instead of presents. She said she has enough toys/books, and wants to help the pups and kittens that don't have a home. In case you are wondering, you bet your rear end I shed a few proud tears when she told me about her decision! That's awesome, Joe. You guys are obviously doing a great job of parenting. Donna and I are big into cat rescue, including trapping, spay/neuter and releasing ferals --- or adopting out the ones that can be tamed. Again, congrats on having such a fine young lady for a daughter. jolicious 1
Mike jones Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 43 minutes ago, jolicious said: 1. It's all good if someone gets mad at me - that means someone else gets a break 2. We will look for you (My Beast is Legend 211 white cap / orange rear end) 3. In all honesty, we may also leave early to help my wife and 8 year old daughter at the Springdale Animal Shelter. Friday is lil bit's (our daughter) birthday. That little sweetie asked everyone to bring dog/cat food or a cash donation instead of presents. She said she has enough toys/books, and wants to help the pups and kittens that don't have a home. In case you are wondering, you bet your rear end I shed a few proud tears when she told me about her decision! Man, that's awesome!! Jaelyn did the exact same thing for her birthday in January for the Fayetteville animal shelter! That's awesome that our kids think of others instead of themselves!!! Champ188 and Robert Haynes 2
Robert Haynes Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 There is a lot of talk about this world getting worse but I see a lot of better kids than when I was a kid and I see some amazing young men standing up and being great Dads and Husbands, Mothers and Wives! jolicious, Daryk Campbell Sr and Champ188 3
jolicious Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 3 hours ago, Robert Haynes said: There is a lot of talk about this world getting worse but I see a lot of better kids than when I was a kid and I see some amazing young men standing up and being great Dads and Husbands, Mothers and Wives! Amen! There is a reason Jesus said: "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." Champ188, Lance34 and Robert Haynes 3
chi0082 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/22/2016 at 8:23 AM, mojorig said: I just wanted to chime in quickly on this discussion. As a biologist and tournament fisherman, I do care about the bass and the anglers. During the summer, temperature control is important. However during night time summer tournament, there is something else that many anglers forget about. At night, the oxygen level is reduced and continues to decrease though the night. Plankton, that normally produces oxygen during that day, is using the oxygen as well at night since no photosynthesis is occurring. When you combine the reduction in oxygen and high metabolic rate of the fish due to the warmer water, there is a need to run your aerators often, if not constantly. We see people run their live wells like they do the rest of the year. Some night that works and other nights, that can cause trouble. You forgot the part about what the high level of stress from being captured, handled, sitting in a cramped livewell, etc will do to a fish in those conditions. All very good info nonetheless. The whole point some are missing is that summer is the least forgiving time to these fish because of the conditions mojorig listed above, and when you add the high stress level of tournament fishing into the mix, it multiplies the effect significantly. As sportsmen it is our responsibility to discourage those from doing something that isn't really right. For instance, if you see that quite a few bass are not surviving upon release in a summer tournament, wouldn't it light a bulb in your head that maybe it's not a good idea to run a tournament during this time of year? Especially if you wake up the next morning and see a bunch of dead bass around the area the tournament was held. Wouldn't it make sense to maybe do something about it? You just can't tell everyone "Hey take better care of your fish" and expect it to happen. So wouldn't the next best thing to do is wait until a better time of year to do it? Nobody is gonna like you for doing that though, because most guys are naturally competitive and wanna have fun especially if they can win some money doing it. As with most things in life, the right thing to do isn't always the popular choice.
Lance34 Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 http://www.scout.com/outdoors/wired2fish/story/1681783-how-to-keep-bass-alive-in-livewells thought this would be helpful for everyone.
jolicious Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Lance34 said: http://www.scout.com/outdoors/wired2fish/story/1681783-how-to-keep-bass-alive-in-livewells thought this would be helpful for everyone. AWESOME stuff! Thank you. Maybe you could make a new thread just for this information? I have always taken the 9 bottles of frozen water because I was worried about the chlorine from ice. Since I already use Rejuvenade, I'll just start buying a big bag of ice on the way to the lake! Lance34 1
DADAKOTA Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 Tourney anglers should take care of their fish. A livewell thermometer is another good thing to have. That way you won't overcool the water. I'd prefer that the summer derbies be shorter in length to lessen the stress on the fish. Three or four hours is enough. But summer derby mortality is just one component of total mortality on a given lake. Chi seems to have a problem with tourneys and lays a lot of bass mortality at the hands of the tourney anglers. So many factors play into the bass mortality and reproduction on a given body of water. Do some bass die from poor handling in tourneys? Absolutely. However, those that were hooked deeply most likely will die regardless of whether in a tourney or not. Today's super hooks do not rust out like the old hooks we used to use. Leaving the hook in a fish is most likely a death sentence. Cranking a fish to the surface from 60 feet down will affect their swim bladder. Not "fizzing" the fish and releasing it into the warm surface water results in dead fish. Should we limit the depth one can fish? Impacting the spawn by sight fishing hurts reproduction. Do we stop fishing then? Coming out of the spawn the bass are weak and more susceptible to disease and being stressed. Do we stop fishing then as well? Folks that harvest fish for the table reduce populations as well. How many bass die due to the use of live bait that they swallow? DO we outlaw bait fishing? How a bout the folks that put them on a stringer all day and decide they don't have enough to clean or don't feel like it. Do you think those bass will survive? How many fish swallow a senko type bait because the angler does not realize they have a bite? More than likely a dead fish. Do we outlaw senkos? So many things kill fish. Otters and cormorants hammer bass. So many causes of mortality. To blame one group (tourney anglers) is ludicrous. There is a carrying capacity for each lake that the fisheries folks consider when regulating the harvest of various fish species. Mortality by all causes goes into the planning and regulations for each body of water. Mike jones, BIGBASSDAVEY, mojorig and 2 others 5
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