Legends Boat Company

[fishinwrench]

When you deal with a dealership that has "a huge inventory of parts" what you are most likely to get as a replacement regulator is one of the earlier versions that failed too many times before the warranty expired...just FYI, because they were able to buy up a case of them on the cheap.  But you'll pay the latest part# price.   

By being a Mercury dealer you are allowed to do that, it's perfectly acceptable.  

[lee G.]

Have there been any lawsuits over this stuff  Wrench?

 

[176champion]

40 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

Here's 2 from separate engines just in the past week.   See anything similar about where the problem might be happening?

This has been going on since 1994 with this component.  

Here's all the supercedes...where they've made changes just to make sure more of them made it past the warranty period. 

Then down at the bottom here you have the most current version (which by the way is the same ones in the pic at the top of this post) 

BTW, there has never been a recall, or even a service bulletin.

Am I really supposed to believe that after all this time they just can't get it right?  Or am I safe in assuming that this is 100% intended?   

Add a little fuel vapor under that cowling and she's gonna go up in big flames.  Do they really not care ?    No not really, because they can blame it on you and your "bad battery" or "loose/dirty battery connection" and their posterior is covered. 

 

You mean like these ...mine burned up last year and the replacement or updated ones from Mercury has a fuse in line now......i didn't even know the one burned up till i pulled the cowling and saw all the crap that ran down back of motor..as you can see there was a small flame cause it scorched the top regulator. I got them some cheaper than what you show and they are Mercury OEM's...1995 mercury..

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, lee G. said:

Have there been any lawsuits over this stuff  Wrench?

 

If there has been it didn't change anything.   Merc will just make them NLA if there was ever any litigation, they don't have a problem doing that after a motor hits 7 years old.  They'll just quit supplying parts for them altogether. Once all the old parts inventory is gone then your just screwed....unless an aftermarket company from overseas decides to start making some.

Try getting a throttle position sensor for a 99 Merc 200 EFI.    If that little POS shoots craps your motor can't be fixed and just has to be scrapped out.  It's nothing more than a rheostat (volume knob) but the last few remaining ones sold for almost 900.00 a couple years ago.   I have 2 good ones but I'm not turning loose of them because I might take one of those motors in on trade someday and I don't wanna get stuck with it.

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, 176champion said:

You mean like these ...mine burned up last year and the replacement or updated ones from Mercury has a fuse in line now......i didn't even know the one burned up till i pulled the cowling and saw all the crap that ran down back of motor..as you can see there was a small flame cause it scorched the top regulator. I got them some cheaper than what you show and they are Mercury OEM's...1995 mercury..

If the part# isn't 8MOO84173 then you got old superceded stock.    And that's likely to change next year unless the latest ones manage to seldom fail under warranty. 

Why not just scrap that dual regulator rediculousness and develop a single water cooled regulator with a overload protection circuit like everyone else has done?    That way if a guy is idling along with a low battery (hey it happens) and decides to hit his trim button the charging system won't go up in flames and start frying expensive ignition components. 

Do they really not intend for their motors to last any longer than a battery ?  I guess that's one way to make sure all Mercurys that get seen are nice and shiney.

[176champion]

That part number looks familiar wrench, but not sure , i do know my friend had to order them for me...i didn't even know they had such a thing for mercury a water cooled regulator...i'll look into it. thanks..

[fishinwrench]

They don't.   But they should.

Well wait......Once upon a time they did.  But oddly enough those were on the motors that now have NLA throttle position sensors.  

Go figure, right?

[176champion]

That water cooled regulator is kind of out my pocket book range for now...460 bucks for one...but i did see a concept that would work, in which i may look into replicating. Where does the water feed come from and return too on the water cooled ones wrench?

[fishinwrench]

It mounts into the exhaust plate (back cover where your regulators are bolted on to) and cools via fins that exhaust water passes through.

You can't convert yours to it without changing the stator, exhaust cover, terminal board, and ignition coil mounts.  Sadly that would cost more than the motor is worth.  And I'm sure the coil mounts and terminal board are NLA.

[Old plug]

5 hours ago, Bass Enforcer said:

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I think he is on the hogh side myself. It is also prety clear that he sells a lot of chinese imations of lures at the same price as others I have seen the writing on the back.