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Apparently a few more " outdoor public figures" are going to be seen euro carping.......B)

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Who gives a chit? Why do you guys care what somebody wants to catch or how they want to catch as long as it’s legal?

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2 hours ago, Harps said:

Who gives a chit? Why do you guys care what somebody wants to catch or how they want to catch as long as it’s legal?

many people look at common carp fishing as not worthy and only people who have no skill or other opportunities to fish for other more traditional quarry, chose to fish for them. There are more anglers who fish for commons than fish for Muskie in the USA, and world wide, common carp fishing is #1 by a very wide margin

as far as legal rules/regulations those change to meet fishermen wants:  EX. trophy trout areas, catch and release waters, or slot limits to help promote more trophy chances. and just because its legal doesn't mean it will always be that way, and who would have thought Alligator gar would be raised in hatcheries?

I started this thread to show some well known anglers enjoy fishing for trophy common carp, releasing them to fight again another day (hopefully a lot bigger) the issue is many former trophy carp waters have been devastated and new regulations have been created to maintain places like LBL lake in Austin Texas, and new regulations for the Connecticut river back east. 

 

Cheers, Mo

 

 

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9 hours ago, MoCarp said:

........... the issue is many former trophy carp waters have been devastated ......

An issue? Carp are so widely available in so many waters here in the states that I can't really see that as an issue. And they're a non-native here so I sure don't want to see any precious wildlife funding spent on them.

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3 hours ago, Harps said:

An issue? Carp are so widely available in so many waters here in the states that I can't really see that as an issue. 

but trophy carp are not wide spread, once carp are targeted in say large scale stabbing events, it has been documented sizes crash, which has a number of possible impacts which have been addressed in other threads here

 

3 hours ago, Harps said:

.And they're a non-native here so I sure don't want to see any precious wildlife funding spent on them.

many beloved managed non-natives have millions spent on them here, Brown Trout, ringneck pheasants, and west of the rockies Largemouth bass are examples, each have been directly responsible for displacement/extinction of other "native" species, common carp have been here 140 years..let me say that again 140 YEARS we stocked them on purpose because man over harvested and polluted many waters and the carp was seen as a replacement for native food fishes.

the common carp is held in high esteem in the rest of the world, and there are resources being spent on management for trophy fisheries here in the states, I am blessed to help in research to that end, I know many people don't want fisheries dollars spent on anything but what they want, many on this board hate the dollars spent on paddle fish, and many in other areas hate moneys spent on alligator gar.

Others on the very forum have said "that they are worried if people buy into my BS, that carp will get managed like gamefish at the expense of fish like bass and trout"...It has been debated on other threads on this forum on the connection with great trophy carp angling with great trophy gamefish in the same waters. and that over harvesting common carp and buffalo can have a negative impact on high quality forage they helps support trophy gamefish populations like LMB.

I understand the animosity of people who love stabbing mass quantities, but even if we see limitations on numbers and sizes of common carp/buffalo, there still will be places , many places to go fish stabbing, this is not a "domino effect" situation or zero sum so to speak, look at Taney as an example, it has trophy areas and meat fisherman areas.

in closing you should try euro-fishing sometime and experience it 1st hand, its hard to go back to other fishing when the smallest fish you catch is far bigger than biggest you catch fishing for most everything else, I still love wading streams for SMB, and going after huge sunfish, and plugging for trophy browns and walleyes, but I made a spot in my angling for euro carping like many others

Cheers, Mo

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My interest primarily is in native fish anymore. Here I want to catch SM and LM and Gar and furthermore. When I go to the Appalachia I want to catch brookies. When I go out west I want to catch cutthroat. I'm not necessarily interested in brown or rainbow in either of those places, but I will enjoy them if I catch them. I fish for trout locally but it's not something that I get uppity about. I haven't caught a carp on my fly rod yet but it's on the 'bucket list,' along with a several other native and non-natives. I'm gonna tie flys and see what I can catch and I'm not going to worry too much about what the other guy is catching or how he's catching it as long as he's finding joy in it and doing it legally. I'm fully aware that piles of money are spent on non-native fishes, as well as some terrestrials and aerials. If all that ceased and the energy was spent on natives instead (or sometime eradication of non-natives) I would be fine with it.

Carp are doing beyond fine without our assistance. There are 20+ pounders laying in virtually every piece of fishable water I've seen in Missouri, so I just can't spend too much energy worrying about them.

Carry on and enjoy YOUR chosen pursuit.

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