taneycomo flow

[Gatorjet]

9 minutes ago, tjm said:

http://tablerock.uslakes.info/level.asp

First site that came up when I searched ' table rock  lake level' , looks like valid info, idk.

That's something somebody pulled out of a hat. Not sure there has ever been a "Winter pool" established by the CoE.

The lever they are assuming is Winter pool is actually bottom of power pool. 

Instead of a website that only assumes things, go to the people who actually built, and operate the dam.

http://www.swl-wc.usace.army.mil/pages/data/tabular/htm/tabrock.htm

[Gatorjet]

Here is a link to a story about how unusually low it was in 2011 at 906'.

http://ozarkadvertiser.com/?p=1954

But to show how quickly things can change, and how hard it is to manage a lake, that was in February, 2011. In April of 2011 Table Rock set a record for flood level!

 

[MOPanfisher]

Mother Nature always has the ability to flex her muscles, and nothing we can do.  

[Seth]

56 minutes ago, Gatorjet said:

Here is a link to a story about how unusually low it was in 2011 at 906'.

http://ozarkadvertiser.com/?p=1954

But to show how quickly things can change, and how hard it is to manage a lake, that was in February, 2011. In April of 2011 Table Rock set a record for flood level!

 

This year was similiar too. It was 906.9 opening night of snagging season on March 15 and then peaked at 934.2 on May 1! That was some serious water! We saw wood standing up in areas that we hadn’t seen in years up by Walnut Spring on March 14th.

http://tablerock.uslakes.info/Level/Calendar/2017/03/

http://tablerock.uslakes.info/Level/Calendar/2017/05/

[crazybaldarcher]

Maybe they are expecting more rain than what's been forecasted

[Gatorjet]

1 hour ago, crazybaldarcher said:

Maybe they are expecting more rain than what's been forecasted

I don't think the CoE makes generation decisions based on anybody's precipitation forcast, long range, or short. Like the previous posts point out, it is a very fine, and difficult balance to achieve. Make room for predicted rainfall, and if it doesn't come, low water. Maybe to the point of not being able to generate power when needed. Leave the lake at close to top of power pool, and one week or a few days of heavy rain, and disastrous flooding results.

 

[tjm]

I was told once that USACE does not control generation at all, they may let water out to control lake level but Southwestern Power Administration controls generation. Whole nother branch of the guberment. I wonder which is truth? SWPA says they adjust generation to meet use loads. SWPA will tell you generation schedules @ 866-4941993.  I don't think they care about flood control, that would fall on USACE.

[Seth]

I wouldn't be mad if we got a bunch of precipitation to make TRL dam generate this winter in conjunction with some really cold temps for a shad kill. Those make for some insanely fun trips to Taneycomo. 

[jattrout]

On 12/14/2017 at 1:40 PM, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Been wondering that on Taney and The white for 40 years.

I worked for a large midwest utility company that is  a member of the southwest power pool for 40 years. Right now the cost of wholesale electricity is cheap with the mild temperatures but can change with the weather and demand but at the present time we have large power plants that are running at half capacity due to lack of demand so i'm thinking that need for power is not an issue

[Gatorjet]

11 hours ago, tjm said:

I was told once that USACE does not control generation at all, they may let water out to control lake level but Southwestern Power Administration controls generation. Whole nother branch of the guberment. I wonder which is truth? SWPA says they adjust generation to meet use loads. SWPA will tell you generation schedules @ 866-4941993.  I don't think they care about flood control, that would fall on USACE.

1. The information from SWPA is notorious for being wrong quite often.

2. Yes, they control generation based on need, but CoE can, and does tell them to release more through the turbines as part of the flood control plan.

So it's a little of both. so if the CoE wanted to lower the level in Winter, and the lake wasn't at, or near flood stage,  it  would be by running the turbines.