mic Posted October 25, 2022 Author Posted October 25, 2022 13 hours ago, netboy said: As far as midges, here on the White and Norfork rivers you can't go wrong with a simple bead head ruby midge (red body and black ribbing) or a P&P bead head midge (tan body and copper wire ribbing). Yea... I fish them all the time. I got a little something to add if I may. I saw this on YouTube I think. This assumes you have UV resin and light. Take the thread all the way up and switch to black. You can also tie in silk, floss, I like x-small red wire (with black thread). Anyway, then tie in a single x-small piece of tinsel fold it over the head and whip finish. Then a drop of thick UV resin on top of the tinsel. You should have a red body, black head, and very very small bulb of resin that refracts the shine of the tinsel in an arc. You still get the midge look, but just a little bit of flash. I just tied up some in blue wire... I don't think it will work, but it was an easy tie and thought I would try it out. Anyway, I drop them off the back of the dry or emerger. If that is all the fish go for, I put it under a wool float.
mic Posted October 25, 2022 Author Posted October 25, 2022 Here I found the link. The fly is called: Black Mirage Zebra Midge. I did mine with small and x-small wire in black, red, and blue. https://youtu.be/B7vswdVnx10
mic Posted October 25, 2022 Author Posted October 25, 2022 Slightly off topic because this is a dry and not an emerger, but here is another one I want to try. Need to figure out the the figure eight tie of the hackle though. Fly is called the NO-SEE-UM. https://youtu.be/vImm4b4sdYE
tjm Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 11 hours ago, netboy said: tandem rig setup under an indicator. Beyond my skill set. I've never caught a fish on a fly/indicator rig. But as always. I'm curious; what is meant by leading fly and trailing fly? Is the lead fly closest to the indicator in the dropper position of traditional wet fly rigs and the trailer at the end of the leader as the point fly would be in a wet fly rig or vice versa? and by indicator, are you referring to a suspension device?
tjm Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 10 hours ago, mic said: Slightly off topic because this is a dry and not an emerger, but here is another one I want to try. Need to figure out the the figure eight tie of the hackle though. Fly is called the NO-SEE-UM. https://youtu.be/vImm4b4sdYE I thought any fly fishing "in the film" was an emerger? That fly looks like many that I've seen called "emerger", and aren't emergers all basically "dry fly" in presentation?
fishinwrench Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, tjm said: I though any fly fishing "in the film" was an emerger? That fly looks like many that I've seen called "emerger", and aren't emergers all basically "dry fly" in presentation? Whenever you hear guys talking about fish taking only "emergers"....that's when you know that they've spent more time reading trout fishing literature, than they have actually fished. You'll do yourself a favor if you don't allow all that BS to pollute your brain. 👍 fshndoug and Flysmallie 1 1
tjm Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, fishinwrench said: You'll do yourself a favor if you don't allow all that BS to pollute your brain. My brain is likely beyond pollution, next step is senility. Or maybe that was yesterday? I fish mostly convertible (wet or dry) flies of nondescript color and shape. Things that land softly and float like an Ausable Wulff but can be pulled under as a diving bug or swung as a streamer; think Stewart's flies crossbred with a Crackleback. in pinks and oranges and streaks of ice or mylar. Every fly is different, mostly. The one requirement is they take very little time to build. The last "fad fly" I tied was probably done during the Swannundaze Craze, or it may have been a Cardinelle as that was being touted at about the same time and I recall buying a kit for them. Went through phases in my tying, first I tied everything in all the magazines, then I tied only flies that caught fish, then I tried for a few years to find a fly that would not catch a fish. These days I tie only occasionally and often attempt something "modern" just to see if it really takes 23 minutes to tie like in the videos, but only if it can be done with materials I already have. That said, I still like to read about how others tie and fish their flies.
netboy Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 12 hours ago, tjm said: But as always. I'm curious; what is meant by leading fly and trailing fly? Is the lead fly closest to the indicator in the dropper position of traditional wet fly rigs and the trailer at the end of the leader as the point fly would be in a wet fly rig or vice versa? and by indicator, are you referring to a suspension device? There are multiple ways to set up a tandem rig. This is how I do it (minus the split shot)... tjm 1
mic Posted October 26, 2022 Author Posted October 26, 2022 14 hours ago, fishinwrench said: Whenever you hear guys talking about fish taking only "emergers"....that's when you know that they've spent more time reading trout fishing literature, than they have actually fished. You'll do yourself a favor if you don't allow all that BS to pollute your brain. 👍 I'm sorry... I don't think I agree. There are days, when dry flies sitting above the film just don't get it done. Those days you need something in the film or hanging from the film. These are the days that I'm trying to be prepared for.
fishinwrench Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, mic said: I'm sorry... I don't think I agree. There are days, when dry flies sitting above the film just don't get it done. Those days you need something in the film or hanging from the film. These are the days that I'm trying to be prepared for. So slap on the appropriate soft hackle and consider yourself prepared. 👍 😊 Very few "dry flys" actually sit above the film. The biggest skunking I can remember was from a guy fishing an Adam's dryfly like a nymph. tjm 1
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