Not to argue but last spring on LOZ 5 fish limit 18.36 lbs. All thou I didn't win the tournament, I did cash a check and it was one of those days that I was having a rough time catching any size. So I tryed the Neg rig. It not something I thought I would try up here. But that day it worked great, caught alittle over 13 keepers that day with my biggest being around 5 lbs if I remember correctly. Sometimes the craziest lure's work better in different situation