Old plug

I will have to try a small one. How much line did you have between your bait and the weight. On mine 3/4 oz ones it is about 18" I have not had much luck when I got it down to a foot or so. Also tie a 2 -4 inches above the hook. Takes a lot of the stisting out of the bait. Plus my weights are are hand poured with a swivel in them. I modified a old egg sinker mold to make them.

My grandkids live off 94 in St Charles I know where the attitude out here in boats comes from.

It has its time and place like everything else. It has been going on for the big ones like I use most of the summer around my dock. That is why I been saying there must be one hell of a season going on out there. i can guarantee you though when the bass are holding tight to the brush 99% of the fishermen me included me will prefer something else. It is a almost certain disaster to use up close to brush cables are any other obstruction. Maybe the smaller one might be better but with 3/4 of lead on the end it's not. Mostly I flip it and pitch it but last time out I was dragging it. You might think well it's like a Carolina rig but it is nothing like a Carolina rig. Carolina run primarily on the bottom DS bait never touches the bottom. It just bumps along shaking the worm running above it.

Just wonder about the size of the drop shot you were using. Regular type or the big ones lake a few of us around LOZ use with 3/4 oz weight and 8"trick worms. Ingot out twice last week for 2 hrs in the evening and totaled 7 keepers, and a pile of smaller fish.

I can give you a stall to keep your boat in free. But you would need to stay in Laurie or maybe with wrench. Dock is on Ceder Point at the mouth of Mill Creek.

That could be one reason Mitch. But then again he might have done it because he driving driving a Caddy CTS. Would not surprise me in this world today. It still should have been reported to the police right then and there. There is such a thing as verble assault. if he frightened the wife he could be arrested for it. Sounds o me like they were both pretty scared of the guy.

Did you call a cop get his lic numbef etcl

I think in spite of all our electronics, natural observation and experience were still going to get fooled unless we sort of stumble onto it. I went out evening before last for the first time in about for the time in months. Of course I went to a area I thought there would be fish. I got some small fish plus 4,keepers in a little over 2-3 hours. The fish were all about 15 to 18 ft. I was so tickled pink I went back the last evening with weather and lake conditions almost identical. Fished the same type places, using the same thing,during what was the prime bite period. Well I caught plenty of smaller fish where they were on the evening before but did not get a smell of a keeper. Then I pitched my lure into a really deep spot. Not base on any great wisdom,electronics or anything else other than boredom. Right away I caught my first keeper. He was sitting down there in 27ft of water. I caught 2 more and a few shorts deep before I stopped. Every one of the better fish came from around 23-25 ft. About 10 deeper than they were 24hrs ago. Just shows how easy we get fooled.

Nope it was a small stand of spring flowers. They were up a weeks ahead of others in the area. It showed that stretch was getting more warm daily sun than any other other place in the area. By evening the crappie were there in the warmth. I do not fish with Wrench but we talk back and forth a lot about our experiences. I think a lot of fishermen Should learn to read Mother Nature kind of things. I know I do.

My mistake I do use a lot of a 3/8 and 5/16. Mind is fleeting at my age. I am kind of forgetting I guess becuase of all my drop shotting addiction.

All I know is three things about fishing and they are right time right place right way There is nothing and I mean nothing that will compare with those three skills. You cannot buy them. You got to earn them. As far as the cows in the shade I will go along with wrench I know he is pretty attuned to nature and the world around him. I am remembering one instance where he noticed plant blooming earlier on a bank than in the surrounding area. It caught him some nice messes of crappie. If you can understand why.

Heavy at least 1/2 oz and 5/8 up to 1 oz are popular. Beilieve it or not those heavy jigs are used in shallow water as well as deep. These are flipped and pitched.

Neither does this 76 yr old. He has been fishing for crappie this summer a few times on my Dock and those of a couple neighbors. He set his light out at dark and comes back and eats al my food till about midnight if the shad are running around in a cloud around the light he catches the little Devi a and puts them on a small gold hook and fishes them unweighted has caught between 80- 100 twice this year and only kept 10.each time ot of good sized ones everything happens with the crappie between 1-4 AM same time has as fishing for bass that time the shad never showed up at the light so he just did the bass

My son caught 4 keepers off the dock week before last between 1-4 AM. Maybe it is just a time thing and nothing to do with lures.

Bill what he does with the drop shot is one of the wYs I do mine. Other way is to drop it straight down sides f docks. Only other person I ever heard around here that uses it is Deon Hibdon. wrench I gave you 3 last year. You did not take my word for it of course. You are not going to like it. Especially if you flip it around any brush. It also will wrap around the fish. If you have now decided to play with it let me know if you want to talk to me about it.

There sure is. Ameren rules are the same as the National Electrical code. But there is no enforcement of it unless the dock changes hands. In places they wanted to have annual inspections, That even is a mess. They said it should be done by a qualified electrician then gave the authority to do it to firemen in locale fire houses at the cost of $150 bucks to be inspected and if something needed to be changed they had to come back and verify the change and then charge you another $150. The whole inspection thing looks like more of a money grab deal rather than concern for safety. If you sell your house the home inspector often inspects the dock. Not sure that is a positive thing either. Recently a friend sold her home and the inspector called her for having the wrong kind of GFI's in the house near water outlets. They had GFI and your suppose to have GFCI in those locations. But they never said a thing about the GFI that were on her dock. And that to me where the GFIC's would seem to be required .

i knew and was aware of that dock where the drowning on LOZ took place they wad a electric motor mounted under a water slide it looked like a total disaster long before the disaster took place. Of the twenty homes in my imeadiate vicinity on LOZ I can only verify that one other than mine is wired to specifications. If your a home owner out here and need someone to wire your dock be careful. Some of the electricians out here do not even do a good job. Last summer a neighbor had a dock wired up( took then about a week) to get it done. After they were done I drove by in the boat and seen no less than 3 violations

Anytime you mix 110 volts with water you got to be careful. Thing happen that are not even hear the dock and result in things happening on the dock. Last death we had here was due to a cut off switch way up in the yard. For some reason some of the wiring got loose and the hot wire fell onto the ground wire. A guy went down jumped in the lake and grabbed the swim ladder and was hit with a full 110 volts killing him. So your far better off paying out $60-80 for one of those 12 volt led green lites. They work fine if used at right time and right place. Nothing will work if those two conditions are not met.

As far a pork goes we got plenty of Hoover porks running around here. If you know what that is. I do not want to see anything larger rooting around out in the yard. But if I did you can bet no state regulation would stop me from shooting one of those Varmin.y

I think it is the human density that is keeping them down,

That explanation of what happens with the shelf life was eye opening wrench. I seen a whole pile of fuel line that were clogged from use of E87. When they set for awhile without use that ethanol causes buildup in the fuel lines. This last time I had that problem the boat had sat over in sunrise beach for Cose to three months. When it came home I started it and it run rough. So I put a couple shot glasses of Sea Foam in the tank and that had th effect I'd breaking up all the hard crap in the lines and the stiff when into the fuel filter and really fouled up he whow. I am going to burn E91 from here on out. It has preformed a awful lot better and I seem to use less fuel and have a lot more power. When you consider the cost of a can of Sea Foam when used as directed in your gas your paying about the same as E91. I have no doubt it is he proper thing in my 115 4 stroke.

Tell me wrench could he not have a problem caused by running to much E87 fuel thru it.

I like your idea but be care full getting use to it. I have a 181/2 ft alum pro bass Targa. The boat is not a lightweight to begin with but because of a problem with the bottom the 100 ga bottom has been covered wth 90 ga additional alum. I have a 65 lb thrust 24 volt troller. On the front of it. Believe me at 65 lbs volts of thrush that can about jerk that 17 ft boat right out from under you.in a sharp turn. I would not have anything other than a 24vt system though you can do much fishing with one charge.

That sounds just like my 115 when the duel lines were fouled.

I know what you mean Warrior I think they just drop down lower are move back further under the ramp. At least that is what happens here at my dock. I know they react to noise on the dock a lot fast than anything by it. Bet if you let things settle down a short bit f time then dropped a lure straight down the edge of the dock you might catch one.