John I was on the far east side, I parked on the campground side. The guy in the middle was getting probably 3 shots to my 1, it was were the birds wanted to be, I believe he had his limit before 9. I did see your dog chase the cripple and you shoot the bird. I believe that was when a couple of birds flew by that I did not see until it was too late. I had one bird that went down in the tall stuff and I went to pick him up and he flushed like a quail, but I got him. Again I really enjoy watching a dog work, to me it is just about as good and the hunt.