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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, March 1
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Increased food base because of fewer trout stocked, yes. That and the increased popularity of catch and release for trophies. Older fish are wiser fish to some degree. -
Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, March 1
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
I fished a few hours yesterday afternoon. Dragging night crawlers was the best from Fall Creek through Trout Hollow. Did catch a couple dragging #12 gray scud. -
Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, March 1
Phil Lilley posted a article in Taneycomo fishing reports
Rain and cold have dominated many days this past month. We've had snow, ice, sleet and rain, all amounting to some sloppy weekends of travel and fishing here on Lake Taneycomo. But the diehards stayed tough and enjoyed some great days fishing for trout (and crappie!) Generation has been nonstop since the first of February. But the lakes have only risen a little bit and are holding even with the runoff from the last sleet storm. Beaver and Table Rock lakes are less than a foot above their power pools and Bull Shoals is up 18 inches. There is no rain in the forecast this week but there is some on the horizon. And with spring three weeks away, unless we have a dry spring season (which we haven't had in eons), we'll probably looking at nonstop generation for quite a while. Flows have been bouncing at between two to four units. That has made for plenty of water to run just about anywhere on the lake including a run to the cable below the dam. Water temperatures have fluctuated, too. I've measured 45 to 46 degrees, but someone Saturday read 43 degrees while fishing the Vince Elfrink Memorial Tournament. The colder water tends to slow down the trout bite at times -- at least that's what some have blamed for their slow fishing. Most mornings, dam operators are running four units, then dropping to three or even two units by noon. They continue that flow until late in the evening, bumping it up to four again into the night. I recommend some of the same tips as those in my last report with a few exceptions. Drifting scuds and eggs are by far the best way to catch both rainbows and browns in the trophy area and below Fall Creek. That's been the case for months. And there are two ways to fish them -- with a float or no float. The best seems to be with a float but that technique is a little more complicated Capt. Steve Dickey is one of our guides who has perfected this. He uses a nine-foot fly rod with floating line and runs a long, 12-foot leader from his fly line to the first fly with a slip bobber. The leader slips through the bobber and stops when it hits his fly line. And he fishes it all very close to the boat. Here is a Youtube video I shot where he explains this technique. Trout caught between Fall Creek and Trout Hollow, when cleaned, yield lots of scuds in their stomachs. So our trout are feeding on scuds on the bottom in the upper end of the lake. Heavy generation causes scuds and sow bugs to be dislodged from their hidden places on the bottom, and trout are keen to watch for these bugs when washed downstream. Use a rig like in Steve's video or just drag a scud on the bottom using a drift rig or just a split shot, but be sure to get it on the bottom. Scuds found in these trout are various sizes, but some are as big as a #12 fly. Most are gray, but some are a brown/gray or olive/gray. And I would stay away from the bluff or deep side of the lake and fish from the middle to the inside bend. With the flow of water pretty heavy, jerk baits cast and worked along mainly the bluff banks early and late in the day are yielding a few browns and rainbows. You do have a good chance at a big fish using this method. Throw a 110+1 Megabass in shad colors, or if you're using a Doty Signature Series, use either a juvenile rainbow or a french pearl. Dragging jerk baits on the bottom with a drift rig can catch good trout, too, but lately it's been slow going. Use a 639 suspending bait in shad colors. It's a short, shallow diving bait that floats. Of course, you can use these baits anywhere on the lake including the trophy area because they are hard baits. There has been no reports of shad coming through the turbines at the dam, but we have been catching a few trout on white jigs in the trophy area. They could come through at any time, or may not . . . we never know. Guides on Monday were drifting night crawlers on the bottom from Fall Creek down, and they brought in limits of decent rainbows. There have been reports of anglers drifting white or pink Gulp Eggs on the bottom down at the Branson Landing and finding some nice rainbows, too. When dam operators have dropped the water flow to two units some afternoons, the bite has been better. The depth of water and flow is easier to manage. The marabou jig bite has been slow, but there have been some good reports coming in randomly. Early Monday morning, good rainbows were caught up close to Lookout Island in the slower water there and just down and across the lake on 1/8th-ounce, brown-head sculpin jigs with the red thread. I was told the red thread made the difference. Black is also been working on the bluff side from Fall Creek to Short Creek. -
Rain and cold have dominated many days this past month. We've had snow, ice, sleet and rain, all amounting to some sloppy weekends of travel and fishing here on Lake Taneycomo. But the diehards stayed tough and enjoyed some great days fishing for trout (and crappie!) Generation has been nonstop since the first of February. But the lakes have only risen a little bit and are holding even with the runoff from the last sleet storm. Beaver and Table Rock lakes are less than a foot above their power pools and Bull Shoals is up 18 inches. There is no rain in the forecast this week but there is some on the horizon. And with spring three weeks away, unless we have a dry spring season (which we haven't had in eons), we'll probably looking at nonstop generation for quite a while. Flows have been bouncing at between two to four units. That has made for plenty of water to run just about anywhere on the lake including a run to the cable below the dam. Water temperatures have fluctuated, too. I've measured 45 to 46 degrees, but someone Saturday read 43 degrees while fishing the Vince Elfrink Memorial Tournament. The colder water tends to slow down the trout bite at times -- at least that's what some have blamed for their slow fishing. Most mornings, dam operators are running four units, then dropping to three or even two units by noon. They continue that flow until late in the evening, bumping it up to four again into the night. I recommend some of the same tips as those in my last report with a few exceptions. Drifting scuds and eggs are by far the best way to catch both rainbows and browns in the trophy area and below Fall Creek. That's been the case for months. And there are two ways to fish them -- with a float or no float. The best seems to be with a float but that technique is a little more complicated Capt. Steve Dickey is one of our guides who has perfected this. He uses a nine-foot fly rod with floating line and runs a long, 12-foot leader from his fly line to the first fly with a slip bobber. The leader slips through the bobber and stops when it hits his fly line. And he fishes it all very close to the boat. Here is a Youtube video I shot where he explains this technique. Trout caught between Fall Creek and Trout Hollow, when cleaned, yield lots of scuds in their stomachs. So our trout are feeding on scuds on the bottom in the upper end of the lake. Heavy generation causes scuds and sow bugs to be dislodged from their hidden places on the bottom, and trout are keen to watch for these bugs when washed downstream. Use a rig like in Steve's video or just drag a scud on the bottom using a drift rig or just a split shot, but be sure to get it on the bottom. Scuds found in these trout are various sizes, but some are as big as a #12 fly. Most are gray, but some are a brown/gray or olive/gray. And I would stay away from the bluff or deep side of the lake and fish from the middle to the inside bend. With the flow of water pretty heavy, jerk baits cast and worked along mainly the bluff banks early and late in the day are yielding a few browns and rainbows. You do have a good chance at a big fish using this method. Throw a 110+1 Megabass in shad colors, or if you're using a Doty Signature Series, use either a juvenile rainbow or a french pearl. Dragging jerk baits on the bottom with a drift rig can catch good trout, too, but lately it's been slow going. Use a 639 suspending bait in shad colors. It's a short, shallow diving bait that floats. Of course, you can use these baits anywhere on the lake including the trophy area because they are hard baits. There has been no reports of shad coming through the turbines at the dam, but we have been catching a few trout on white jigs in the trophy area. They could come through at any time, or may not . . . we never know. Guides on Monday were drifting night crawlers on the bottom from Fall Creek down, and they brought in limits of decent rainbows. There have been reports of anglers drifting white or pink Gulp Eggs on the bottom down at the Branson Landing and finding some nice rainbows, too. When dam operators have dropped the water flow to two units some afternoons, the bite has been better. The depth of water and flow is easier to manage. The marabou jig bite has been slow, but there have been some good reports coming in randomly. Early Monday morning, good rainbows were caught up close to Lookout Island in the slower water there and just down and across the lake on 1/8th-ounce, brown-head sculpin jigs with the red thread. I was told the red thread made the difference. Black is also been working on the bluff side from Fall Creek to Short Creek. View full article
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I'll check and see if we have any coming.
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Tough day of fishing yesterday for the tournament guys... all except for a few guys. 42 teams and only 16 weighed in. Did have a 25 inch brown brought in and released. Caught dragging a live sculpin.
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I caught this 4.5 pound brown today
Phil Lilley replied to snagged in outlet 3's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
It won't be uploaded till about 8-9 pm. -
I caught this 4.5 pound brown today
Phil Lilley replied to snagged in outlet 3's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
It's on Youtube too -
I caught this 4.5 pound brown today
Phil Lilley replied to snagged in outlet 3's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
I mentioned you on FB this afternoon. I think I passed you... Man I couldn't get bit today. Stayed with sculpin - should have did white again. But you have to keep trying different colors to see what they like. Tough for me. Great conditions though. -
I caught this 4.5 pound brown today
Phil Lilley replied to snagged in outlet 3's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
You might of pinched the tail and got 20... I think I'll give it to you -
Dutch is right. You're picking tailwaters and everything is based on generation. We could write a book for you... actually I have written several articles on fishing various flows on Taney on this site - but we can't tell you right now what generation will be. Chances are it will be high no matter where you go - with spring rains - but you never know. Wait till closer to the date (2 weeks to 10 days) and you'll have a better idea what you're looking at.
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It's there... first page.
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I got it somewhere...
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I don't see why they won't stay with the pattern they've had for the past couple of months. Today MAYBE was a fluke. But running water in the mornings, off in the afternoons. I don't think we'll get enough rain to make any difference. I see 1-1.5 inches in the forecast.
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Locals keep it quiet... they covet their walleye. And stripers.
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I think they are... swimming minnows early and late and at night.
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It all depends on generation... where you can wade, if you can wade. Keep an eye on reports here and when it gets closer to your trip, ask again.
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I think you meant to post this under the White River forum. You're fishing below Bull Shoals dam on the White since you're staying at the campground there, I assume. I'll move it over there. You'll get more answers I think once it's moved.
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Drift fishing worms with a scud????
Phil Lilley replied to Jeff Polys's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
You can use a bead head but not really for drifting. They'll drag too much. It's more for using it under an indicator. #12 is the biggest you'd use. #14 and #16's are working better. Gray and brown are working good too. -
Bill and Roberta Sheriff. Awesome people.
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We've had about 25 new members join this past week. All REAL people.... I hope. Spammers are getting pretty tricky. Hope everyone feels free to introduce themselves and participate. Welcome!
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Looks like Beaver is now running 24/7 and it's dropping a little. Not sure what this snow is going to add but I wouldn't think much. Should soak in real good. Table Rock's running 4 full today. I don't think it's because it's cold - only. It's been colder this winter and they didn't blast the water like this. May be they're starting to drop the lakes... let's hope so. We'll see how anglers adjust to this flow. Might be tough... but that's nothing new. I do think we'll see some big trout this weekend. RAW is Saturday. We were thinking it was going to break the 100 boat mark but not now. I hope not. Because of the snow, parking is a nightmare, Cooper boat ramp is a no-go, only the city ramp will be manageable. But I'm guessing we'll still have 60-70 teams. We'll see.
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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 1, 2022
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Seems like there's been an increase of catching browns up and down from Fall Creek in the last month. Small ones and big ones. -
Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 1, 2022
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, February 1, 2022
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
The water patterns of course changed yesterday. They're running water all day and off at night. Me and Blake caught good numbers yesterday on 1/32 oz jigs. No size really. But it was nice to catch fish on jigs again.