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Sure no problem. It is pretty rare that someone has a question about chemistry, so I am always happy to chime in. It tends to be a largely useless skillset except for very niche applications.

They are all common household detergents. Soaps and detergents all work by the same basic fact that you can easily dissolve salt in water, but cannot dissolve oil in water. The molecules you listed are large, generally linear, molecules that are very greasy (non-polar) on one end, and very salty (polar) on the other. Most debris that needs to be cleaned is made of organic material that is largely non-polar. Water is a very polar molecule and a polar solvent will not dissolve a non polar solute very well. Since detergent has both a polar and a non polar end, it forms what is called a micelle around organic particles where the greasy end surrounds the particle, and the salty end can be dissolved in water. So when you add soap to dirt and let it set for a few minutes, it forms micelles around the dirt and it is easier to clean with water.

This is fascinating. Thanks for the write up. I'm sure you've done this, but if you do the Bonne Terre mines tour, you can actually see all of the old excavating equipment flooded about 100 feet down.

Cant go wrong with Chompers. The 4 and 6 inch worms in brown purple catch a large percentage of the bass I catch. I just thread that dude on a crappie jig and toss it around. Great report!

You are correct, that is the bone hole. It is a local hangout, and because it is rural Missouri there are gonna be some fights and shootings, but I have never had any trouble there. I have left my vehicle there for day trips, but never overnight. If the river is really up, and you are not fishing, you can do mounts to the bone hole in a day, but the river is generally slow and that is lots of paddling. You will have to portage at the low water bridge at leadwood, and the last mile before leadwood is basically a large pond with very little current. Also, mounts is not a public access and the people who own it may charge 5$ or something to park your car there. That fee may just be to camp or leave your car overnight I cant remember off the top of my head.

That is a heck of a walleye btw. Great fish!

To each his own, but when I go meat fishing, I generally toss every legal fish in the cooler, I just learned not to post those pics on the table rock forum 🤣. I am not a livescoper yet...but in a few years they will have one for 200$ dollars and we will all have one connected straight to our smartphones. There are tons of fisherman like me, who suck, and even if we keep every fish we catch we cant do any harm. On lakes like table rock or stockton, for me, finding fish is the hard part using paper maps, lining up trees and rocks on the bank, and using 2d graphs. Ive often heard that with livescope you still have to make them bite...but we all know that on deep clear impoundments, finding them takes WAYYYY more time than cycling through baits to see what makes them react. I could very well be wrong (I guess I hope I am too). I just think that this new technology is really going to take its toll on lakes that set up perfect for it with lots of roaming suspended fish.

I read the article, but not the particular study. That said, I do know quite a bit about PFAS. 1.) PFAS/PFOS is an extremely vague term that covers thousands of different compounds. 2.) Generally they are extremely stable polymers that accumulate to high levels because they do not biodegrade quickly. 3.) They are already in you, and there is not sufficient data to determine the level of toxicity. They are obviously not acutely toxic because people aren't falling over dead, but like anything long term toxicity has to be determined the long way. ****my opinion!!**** I am not a doctor, but a chemist. My personal opinion on them is that they pose very little risk due to their inherent stability. Generally toxic compounds are toxic because they react with something in your body. Fluorinated alkanes just do not react with much. Like all microplastics, it will take several generations of these accumulated molecules for us to know the full effects, but in the meantime they are cheap, convenient and ubiquitous. Other facts about PFAS : Teflon is a fluorinated polymer, which is largely the reason nothing sticks to it. Also, "CFC's" which are also fluorinated alkanes, are what poked a hole in the ozone layer. Due to their inherent stability they do not react with molecular oxygen (o2), but when they move higher in the atmosphere they react with ozone (O3) which caused that hole (ha!) disaster.

I think eventually we will be seeing conservation put smaller bag limits as guys really hammer the crappie with the new technology. I also wonder if the pro-FFS tournament bass fishermen will change their tune when crappie guys are filleting out 5# bass cuz they could see it on their livescope.

I could not agree more. This is refreshing to read and very well said.

Ignore doug. He is nothing more than a troll, and an unfunny one at that.

Congrats on that walleye BTW. That is a real trophy fish!

Ya know, I get bored when I fish the same bodies of water over and over again. I like to mix it up and fish for different species, and use different techniques. That said, the reason you're one of the best at catching walleye out of the Meramec is because you're always fishing it. I would love to catch a 12# river walleye, but doing so requires all the time and effort spent fishing that one particular fishery. If you're willing to put in the hours, you're likely to be rewarded with something special. I fish all over Missouri, but generally no one body of water more than say 10 or 20 times per year, so Ill never really get to master any of them. If I fished one lake or river 100 days or more a year, id probably be one of the best at fishing it. It kinda seems like you wanna see something different, so go for it!

I'm glad that place is still in business. They've been open for quite some time. I make sure to spend a hundred bucks or more every time I am in Kimberling.

Thanks. Seems like that has been the trend with so many jerkbaits lately. I tend to like a slow floater, and I can add lead strips or split rings to make is suspend or sink.

The tackle warehouse description says it slow sinks, is that the case? and how fast?

Thanks ill do that! I want to do big creek, but the 2 times I have been there were in the winter so I figured most of the fish would be in winter spots on the main river and not in big creek.

It is probably somebodies lost dog.

Getting humbled is probably the best way to learn IMO. There are a few techniques that I feel I am really good at, but I know that there are better anglers than me that would out fish me 10 to 1 with the same lures. As someone who generally fishes alone, I think there would be a lot to learn from fishing with someone like that. Sounds like a fun time.

I didn't have anyone to shuttle me, so I just put in at the access, walked/paddled upstream to the holes I wanted to fish, and paddled back down.

I fished Saturday around the Sam Baker access. The water temp was 45-46 degrees all day, air temp about the same, clarity about 6 feet or so. I brought my fish graph this time to see how deep the holes were, and the deepest I saw was 14 feet. I was there from about 11a-4p and looked for crappies for an hour or so to no avail. Picked up a jerkbait and immediately started catching. One of the better days of bass fishing I've had. I quit counting at 10 fish, and they just bit better and better throughout the day, then the bite stopped abruptly at about 330. If I had to guess, Id say I caught somewhere around 30 bass. Most were fairly shallow, but up on the deep banks. They were mostly between 13 and 15 inches, with the biggest being a 17 inch LM.

Got 3 or 4 inches in Wayne County overnight. I don't think I've ever hunted opening day with snow on the ground.

The irony of this thread is staggering. People have been panic buying ammo for decades now, as seen in the comments here. How on earth would you expect skyrocketing demand to result in stable prices?

Nah I'm sure you could take me! It was a great float, and my catching expectations are generally pretty low when I float a new stretch anyway. I was pleasantly surprised how many trout we caught down to Welch spring. Heck i caught 2 just standing at cedar Grove put in. It was a gorgeous stretch of river, especially compared to where I normally fish. I still need to do the upper jacks fork, but so far this and the eleven point were the 2 most scenic we've done.

You told me that? I don't recall. That's ok though, we just want to try different rivers. I caught enough to keep me entertained.