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@BilletHeadmy remark about what makes a streamer was facetious, because the terms are used so broadly today that anything on a hook can be called anything, however in my mind streamers are still the trolling flies of Maine, with bucktails, jigs, flat wings, hairwings, &c as separate categories, probably an idea from one of those old books I read long ago. The language has changed a lot over the years and there also materials and methods that did not exist way back when. If the fly tyer says it's a streamer, it must be one. @micsince I'm not in your swap I'll apologize for posting to it.Y'all have fun with it the flies all look fishy.

doesn't a streamer have to have a floss body and jungle cock cheeks?

halfway I guess the old guy never found a leech.

did it work?

I recall when I was young and quacks still made house calls, the Dr. came to my grandparents house every day for a week or two and applied leeches to Grandma's leg. I don't recall that it helped any.

My reply too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planarian

I'd not be surprised if we had spoken at such an event and not known to whom we spoke. Screen names on forums don't come to mind in a brief conversation. We have no recognition hand shakes,secret signs or identifying colors to make us easy to spot. I just wandered around talking to the tyers, son wanted to see a couple of the presentations. One guy tied a fly without a vise, interesting to watch, but not something I intend to learn.

Was there last year with oldest son and he wants to go again this year. It was more than I expected, and tyers came from farther away than I expected.

Detour

Isn't that what George Daniel does?

I'm guessing that tear down and removal are cheaper than maintenance. I've not been paying attention to that Park, but it seems like the bridge has been unusable for four or five years and the Park stays open? If I was running that comments meeting I'd be asking "Why do we need this?" not "What color do you think the new bridge should be?" I'm not sure that MDC even has people trained to maintain anything? When some of the accesses had pit toilets, they weren't maintained until someone complained and they took the toilets out, when they built all those boot washers to prevent the spread didymo they were never maintained. Roads in the conservation ares are never maintained.

Braum's is our favorite burger joint followed by Steak n shake.

that and you have to store one material.

What kind of suckers are you trying for?

Fish it like the food you want to imitate, let the jig lay still to imitate a rock or a snail, make it swim to represent a bait fish/fry, pick it up a ways and let it dive back into the bottom to represent a crawdad, let it tumble freely to represent a nymph or such that is caught in the current. A popular way to fish jigs in the parks is with a fly line and a bobber. Do they work in this place or that? sure they do, and to illustrate that, think of any conehead or bead head or lead eyed Clouser or Whistler as being a jig; lures weighted at the head so that they dive rather than sink slowly on an even keel. I don't know what the jigs you reference look like, but I'd bet they will work in almost any water that has any kind of fish. To fish a jig in vegetation, incorporate a weed guard.

yes 7" It's strange that according to the USGS the rock bass is invasive in most of Mo. and prior to ~1960 only existed in the eastern 1/4-1/3 of the state, I had always thought of them as natives.

Of course after the three minutes are up, you may as well take them home and keep them over night.

That would be a felony in some some states, but worse is that you can so easily step on one yourself while picking the others up when you want to open the area up. And like this so easy to miss one. If you want some though there are tutorials on how to DIY effective caltrops on several 'survival" sites.

I wonder why.

I thought they stopped asking during the Covid lay offs and I thought they had just suspended the requirement for fishing licenses for a while? Regardless it's in the regulations what permits are needed and it's the angler's responsibility to buy them, if you buy the tag without the permit and get checked it's you that pays the fine, not the sales agent.

Pool, bridge, RV park, store, lodging is all on DNR. whose interest is hiking and bird watching. Of course the Concessionaire has his way with the store and lodging, you having a fishing license is your responsibility not his. The hatchery must be MDC though, since they control the fish.

It's long been my belief that DNR/Parks is opposed to fishing (or any kind of consumptive use) and that it shows in Park management, in the trout parks MDC is a stepchild. It's a wonder to me that they still have hatcheries there.

Since the anadromous version of that fish is "Dolly Varden"; if there are steelhead in the Green[ the char are most likely Dolly Varden rather than "Bull Trout" which are the non-coastal/non-migratory version. Unless of course it happened before 1970 when identical fish became two species.

@nomoliteshe wants the name of the pattern for record keeping, as in

That's why a long rod is handy, you can basically use one rod length or one and one half rod length of leader, and the fly doesn't actually have to float if you keep it suspended. Touch and go. It's how the Macedonians fly fished and the essence of tenkara fishing. it helps if you fish down wind as the wind will provide lift.