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Would you quit your job today to swipe catalytic converters? Trapping then probably paid less than boat repair does now, but the Carter economy sucked, so it was possible to make as much as the average annual income of the time in the three months of good fur. Legal too.

In the late '70s early '80s that was quite possible. A great market for a few years, think Russia was buying. One man I knew quit union carpentry to trap full time ~'79-80.

I'm surprised that any State Park allows hunting, even with special regulations. Although I do recall something one time about a managed deer hunt in BSSP, at the time I wasn't intersected so don't recall details, is that an ongoing thing now? Do they allow other hunting in that park? I'd try to find out why MDC has nothing to do with regulating the fishing in any waters owned by the state , if you had the name of that lake. It says on the State Park website under laws and regulations as applies to all parks "No hunting or discharging of firearms is permitted." I know the DNR guys that I've talked to in the past have been emphatically anti-hunting/trapping and barely tolerant of fishing. Gave the impression that parks should be used only as hiking/bird watching areas. Years ago when I asked via email about fishing access to Big Sugar through the Park, the reply was that fishing was not allowed in that Park. In talking with employees of both departments it seems the two agencies are at odds over consumptive use.

My question was more about ownership of the real estate and infrastructure. I think I know what falls to each department as far as administration goes. And of course there is overlap and cooperation in those areas. The concessions I may be not clear on. I thought store and lodge were DNR owned and managed through contract concessionaires. Wrench tells me that MDC has the store. so. idk I think ownership is important when we start the blame for the Park's condition. I suspect there are situations in which neither Dept has clear responsibility. And I suspect some of the employees don't know which is who. I know that at RRSP park employees have given me misinformation numerous times.

I don't know anything about stream teams, or what they do. If they are aimed at habitat that would fall under MDC, and if they are aimed at water quality that would be DNR, as I understand it. There would be areas of overlap, of course, for example fish are MDC's concern and water quality can affect them so monitoring water quality as it relates to wildlife would be an MDC concern. But DNR has regulatory and enforcement over water quality as it relates to pollution and "clean water" laws.

MDC doesn't own the creek, just the wildlife; DNR has full control of water quality, sewage and mining of gravel, so if they stepped in they just did their jobs,

That is a surprise, I haven't found anything in MDC organization that mentions 'concession' and DNR does have 'concessions' at other parks.

Does MDC own that hatchery or is it DNR owned? Does MDC or DNR own the park itself and all the infrastructure?

Image? I like yellow.

That's how we all started, with the first one. Soon you'll need a storage bin or two to keep all the materials.

I've eaten beaver. Backstrap, I think, but it was already cooked when I saw it, extremely lean and tasted very rich, if a bit tough. which might have been in the cooking method. But yes the tails were eaten for the fat content, most wild game meat doesn't have fat like beef or 'coon.

Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with your diagnosis, it's just that odd things make me wonder and I sometimes type or speak my thoughts, curiosity like mine can be dangerous thing.

WOW!! I would have expected most of that, but not the reversing of poles. I wonder if the wiring meltdown caused a cross wire effect, I had a entry wire melt on a mobile home that fed both sides of the fuse panel from one leg of the 220. And I've seen under dash melts in trucks that caused hot and not to be crossed over.

March usually means flooding or flash flooding to me. Fishing sometimes possible and just as often not. Nothing can be planned more than a day ahead on streams that rise from 130CFS to 15,000CFS randomly. You might want to have a plan "B". As to choice of streams, I personally would pick one near a good "plan B" .

I've never used craft fur, in the craft stores it has such a "dead" look that I just never tried it. I have used "Bonnie Braid" and Gartside's "Secret Stuff" for similar applications. Flysmallie, on another forum years ago, a fellow posted about making tails that looked just like that out of shower caps, he had multiple colors and several kinds of flies tied with them. Sized the tails big and small. I looked for shower caps the very next time we went shopping and then forgot about them when I didn't find one that day.

That's new to me, I thought they just boiled dry or melted.

First, disconnect the battery completely before using the voltmeter on it, if it's still connected to anything the meter will read the system rather than the battery. Check that the leads on the voltmeter are not reversed on the meter itself. And on a multimeter that the switch is in "DC+" rather than "DC-" -stupid stuff I've done- use the meter on a known good battery as a test of the meter. I've never seen it, but in theory, I know a couple of ways to get a wet battery to charge backwards, both involve a completely dead battery and actually hooking the charger up wrong. It's likely that if this happens the battery is shot. Full discharge and very slow correct charge might work to restore it, but I've never tried that. I have seen a car battery explode when jumpers were being hooked up, so explosion is always a consideration. maybe just bring it back where you got it and let them do the testing, they probably have a way to load test and determine damage

With a 10AM temperature of 23F and a wind chill, as forecast, I wouldn't likely fish. I might show up and drink coffee, but...

I was thinking the same things about spirits.

I just thought of an anecdote having to do with poultry and wild turkeys, back in the mid-late '60s there were lots of thousands of domestic turkeys being grown out side on "ranges", ~3 acre patches wire fenced ~8' as i remember, this was about the same period that we first started seeing wild turkeys show up locally and near one of those range operations some of the wild turkeys in a couple of flocks were white and the next year there several pied turkeys in those flocks. that particular range operation dissolved after about two years due to divorce and the whole outside ranging idea was scrapped for inside ranging not long after that; but the wild turkeys in that location were still often pied ~40 years later, with some being mostly white. I've never known for sure if the white was from the domestic stock or if it and the pied factor are natural in the wild stock. I'll be watching as that area repopulates to see if the pied strain comes back too.

I haven't heard that. But, I know that, almost all the local poultry farms are gone, probably all out five or ten years ago, and that when they were flourishing in the '80s through the early 2000s is when we had the densest population of both wild Turkeys and Bald Eagles. I know a biologist that specializes in game birds and I'll ask about a poultry connection. Locally the poultry was scattered throughout the area on individual farms and sometime again vaguely 10-20 years ago handling of dead birds and field spreading of litter was restricted to the point that most guys retired rather than invest in the new methods. This moved most/all production to large corporate farms out on the prairies near OK or up toward the I44, so in this immediate area I don't see any connection.

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Quillback, since I'm just a few miles from you, I can provide a little info on why you don't see more here. Now, I don't recall the years, but, 10-15 years ago we had cold wet rains during the brood time, not just once but several years in a row, resulting in zero recruitment. I went from having two flocks using my land (every year and year 'round, by the way) and having two or three hens nest every year to having none, and in the years since, the guys that hunt hard and know where every roost is told me that for a number of years they hadn't seen or heard a single bird in the whole area. Lost the usual two or three coveys of bobwhites at the same time and I've not heard a quail since. As best I recall this affected most of Benton and McDonald counties. MDC said they would come back eventually and the turkeys are, the past three years I've seen turkeys in the Big Sugar corridor from Pea Ridge to near Pineville and the numbers are increasing with each year. In another 20 years they will back in Bella Vista and Caverna. They just need to cross a couple of ridges. The NWTF says "In general, the average life expectancy for hens is three years and four years for toms. Everyone likes to blame predators as the chief factor when discussing a wild turkey’s life expectancy, but, while predation is no doubt a factor, ..." So in theory three consecutive bad years could wipe out the hen population. it did here, but it may have been a couple marginal years followed by three or four failing years.

I've seen them load 'abandoned' cars at the nearby creek more than once, took them "away". But, I knew a guy in a far away time that had a grudge against a guy and he called a tow truck to pick up his "broken down" car and haul it to a repair shop. Gave the tag number and said he had to be some place else. that car was hauled too.

what if someone calls a tow truck for a car they don't own and have it hauled away? did the tow guy steal it or does the stranded fellow have to pay the tow fee and impound?