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If the trouble with using streamers is in casting them, I would be changing the line. What line are you using? I make my own leaders and like them to be different lengths for different water depths, but for streamers the tippet should probably be 3X or larger. On the bass creeks my standard tippet is 8# or 1X. Should also ask what waters are you fishing and what target fish?

A fellow on another fishing forum from Bulverde, Tx has been without power since last night and is cooking on a camp stove. Claimed a foot of snow and <50F indoors this AM about 8. I guess even a 4000$ they didn't get enough to go around.

yeah, my silly question was with a grin, the important thing about the weather is that if we are patient it will change

Do we need more snow?

-18F 7AM, that's cold enough for me.

It is awfully convenient for governments around the globe. No doubt perfected and cultured in the lab, but there is no way that it spread at the same rates through the same populations world wide on it's own. It had to be delivered to closed populations like prisons and nursing homes, those people don't travel and they didn't pick it up at mardi gras

Actually I wasn't sure because I've only seen the Pyramid from outside before the move, so I looked it up. Both are huge but I doubt that fishing is a major part of their profit plan, the Rogers store at least is more of a clothing emporium than a tackle shop.

But do you think nature (or Nature) chose this situation or do you think the governments picked this financial solution?

IDK, I haven't been to the new one there, but at the old smaller store they had a fantastic fly tying supply and when I asked why so much, I was told that Memphis had the largest fly fishing & tying club in the USA which surprised me even more.

That is the BIG THANG- the masks do not protect the wearer, Oneshot's mask gave Al a little bit of protection and Al's mask is protecting Ketchup. So for me to be protected Ketchup needs to wear a dang mask. otoh, if I tell Ketchup to wear a mask for my protection, I am being just as self-centered as he is by refusing to wear one. I suppose that we are all going to die of something and getting rid of the aged and non working segments of the population does benefit the young and they can't see that it will soon be their turn, this has gone a long ways toward reducing Social Security payouts and similar age associated costs to the governments worldwide. A couple more years and there won't be any old diabetics in any developed country. No doubt that this will continue for a long while, maybe until the younguns of today are ripe for disposal. A picket fence won't keep mosquitoes out of your house either, even if it has fresh paint.

The largest Bass Pro is in Memphis. Still the 2nd biggest should have some stock on the shelf.

Hair wing or feather wing streamers that are all head and wing, or upside down weedless frogs

These have two bends in the offset like a worm hook rather than a single bend like a jig hook? Tie the wing to the "vertical'' leg between the hook shank and the eye shank, then force it to lie in line with the shank with thread. Or tie in a heavy mono "shank" extension and build on that, tie tubes with the eye seated in the tube. With the hook in hand I'd maybe think of some other way to use them, but most likely what I'd do, give them to worm fishers and buy a box of #3366 in the size I want. This is similar? yes I see it is

Does HLS have an inhouse rod builder or do they sub it out?

I always think of boulders being too big to trip over, VW Bug size, how tall are the night fishermen at Taney? I'm surprised MDC added rocks, at RRSP they keep taking them out to maintain the canal look.

I'd like to get rid of all the dams, but I doubt that the native species could/would return on their own. Anadromous species just return to where they were hatched, I think, and if a dam has been in place very long it will have broken that cycle. All the minor species and the many invertebrates killed by impoundment would probably take a millennium to repopulate.

trout are just trout- bass are fish, enjoy you have a great new friend

Because of CITES we have good data on numbers of otter and bobcats taken in any year and where they were harvested. Between 1400-2000 otter taken per year the last few years state wide and average prices of $23-31. Peak harvest years would have been ~2012-2014 and about 4000 statewide, with prices ~$120. Going by reports on trapping forums not many target otters except in nuisance trapping. I've only seen otter sign locally in about three of the last twenty years, a few came through and stayed a while and seem to have moved on. Two were killed in my county in the '18-'19 season. There were a few locals that were concerned that the otters would wipe out all the suckers, funny they weren't concerned about the giggers wiping out the suckers.

It is the oldest Federal Hatchery still in operation, not the first. Baird Hatchery on California’s McCloud River, was the first Federal fresh water hatchery in 1872. There have been Federal hatcheries in most of the states and many were not related to trout production, in fact the Neosho people have told me that the endangered sturgeon and shiners were of primary importance to them, trout were secondary and done as mitigation for the lakes damage to native fish. The hatchery I recall reading about in the St.L area may have been state or Federal or idk, it was a few years ago and I was interested in the importation of brown trout and common carp from Germany under the USFC and Baird, lots of records in the national archives and NOAA, some from other places, the thing that sticks is that they brought over a German fish culture expert and his assistant to run the hatchery. What didn't stick is whether the German fish were carp or Von Behr trout. Carp were particularly desirable at the time by the millions of new immigrants from Europe and was at the top of USFC priorities. Every farmer had carp ponds for market fish for a dozen years or so, until commercial fishing in the rivers made it unprofitable. Carp also had the ability to adapt to lower quality water that had been caused by extreme logging. Mo. Fish Commission (state not the same as USFC in Mo.) probably put as much effort into Von Behr as they did McClouds or Pacific Salmon. Their greatest success though would be with the carp. Abbreviated history of USFC and it's successors https://training.fws.gov/History/Articles/FisheriesHistory.html To put the USFC in real perspective though you need to go back to the 17th/18th centuries when salted fish was the USA greatest export and look at the almost total loss of American Shad and our Atlantic salmon that had happened by the early 1800s. An overview of the shad, one can look up the references from the foot notes https://www.potomacriver.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/PotomacShadHistory201203.pdf

You can find history of the fisheries https://library.noaa.gov/Collections/Digital-Documents/Fish-Comm-Annual-Rep#:~:text=The United States Commission of Fish and Fisheries,name was changed to the Bureau of Fisheries. They weren't The US Fish Commission was concerned with commercial fisheries and with sustenance fisheries, Sport Fishing is a post WW2 development, result of redistributed wealth and disposable time. As to the Crane stocking it was either before 1887 or not from the McCloud river per Rik Hafer- https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/lifestyles/rik-hafer-missouri-marks-140-year-history-with-trout-this-summer/article_f5e55ec9-34d9-5cb3-a964-6ab108cc46ad.html "Fish culturists quickly discovered how easy it was to propagate rainbows in hatchery conditions. This made the McCloud River operation redundant. In fact, one of the last shipments of rainbow eggs from the McCloud came to Missouri in 1887. State hatcheries or a federal hatchery such as the one in Neosho have supplied rainbows for stocking ever since." Missouri Fish Commission had a hatchery at St. Joseph, I think, and possibly others, probably the source of most Mo. stockings in the late 1800s. I seem to recall a Federal Hatchery in St. Louis, but think they were establishing German Carp rather than trout. It is notable too that the Feds attempted to establish salmon in Mo. (I don't recall details but think it was the Mo. River) with the intent that the salmon would travel to the Gulf and return here to spawn. Fish science of the 19th century was a bit hazy.

My quote was from the link above, actually went there from your post, I did note that it was written by an Englishman, so had the potential to be either unbiased research or just rumor picked while he was in the area. I would have guessed that the railroad he referred to was SLSF or some early defunct system, but hey I know nothing about railroads or Crane. Then chances are the first stocking was after 1905?

I mentioned the the spots kinda tongue in cheek, but from what has been said and what I've seen elsewhere, I believe you may have lost the cool effect when you lost the trees. Having used a thermometer extensively in eastern streams, I am convinced that shade is most important in keeping the water cool enough for trout to thrive. I'd get busy planting (fast growing) trees on every south and west exposure, then east, before even considering any trout expenditure. Sufficient warming and you will invite the spots up there. The springs should keep it cool enough for the small mouth and trout in the immediate area of the springs, but without good shade you may have a large proportion of marginal waters. I'd also skip the dam, with the notion that such things warm long sections above them and slow the water resulting siltation. Even low water bridges have this effect. I do think a moratorium (or restriction) on floating would be beneficial to the recovery of the stream. Every paddle stroke stirs the bottom and every foot print compacts it. Even trash removal disturbs some surface area, stirs the mud, scatters a bit of silt etc. Which. brings to mind the need for a use fee for recreational floaters that could be used to educate floaters and to acquire/maintain access points.

is it the salt that makes them fight more? or the ice? would they be just like what we have if they had to live here and adapt? It seems that all animals are more lethargic nearer to the equator and more active farther from it. When I lived in the northern tier of states I was more active than I am here in the subtropics.

Rail access would have been a major factor. Actually they were sent out to obtain and ship to the east coast Pacific salmon eggs to replace the devastated Atlantic salmon stocks. The trout just happened to there too. I found this that tells at least a part of the story and has some pictures of the river now and then, scroll way down past all the adverts. http://www.mtshasta.com/history-of-the-mccloud-river-rainbow/