Nick Adams

What does that mean? Teachers don't have mandatory time off. Cox didn't divert from primary care clinics during the initial wave or the Delta wave. The hospitalizations in the Springfield area are higher than they've ever been. Would they be if more people vaxed? All indication are no. Again people, look at my foam flies!

Your quote is empty, so I'm not sure what I need to defend, but there are 10s of thousands of business effected. Just locally, Cox is having to cancel routine visits and schools are closing because they can't get enough subs. If more people were vaxed, it wouldn't spread as much because fewer people would have it. That's not to even note how many businesses in the service industry are short-staffed. Carhartt's CEO said it was a threat to their bottom line. I'm much more interested in what people think of the flies I posted in the Foam thread though.

Note, I did not tie the poppers. The beetle page are all my Franken-beetles that I saved for my panfish box. My decent beetles are in the trout box.

I agree that releasing data now is appropriate, but the Ron Johnson's and Joe Rogan's of the world are spinning conspiracy theories that are literally killing people. We have a ton of available anecdotal data as well. Millions of people have taken it and now one is dropping dead. A very few people have did drop dead from blood clots in the Atsra Zeneca and I believe at the very least women of certain demographics were advised to not take it. I don't think it was ever available here. Please note: I'm pulling this from my own memory. I'm too busy watching football to google and verify it. From my perspective, there are a lot of people making a lot of excuses to not get a shot based on faulty or non-existent science. Doing your "own research" when you don't know how to actually do research is a horrible idea. My primary care doctor, as well a most, say that they very vast majority of side effects appear within 6 weeks. Will time tell? Yes, but so far so good. All of our kids get about 12 vaccinations k-12 that are mandated by the state of Mo. Flu shots for caregivers are mandated in all health systems in MO and have been fore more than 10 years. We've have mandated, government enforced vaccines and quarantines supported by Supreme Court decisions for more than a century for small pox, TB, and more. People and politicians need to stop pretending that our rights are being violated. People also need to find reliable sources to get medical advice. I asked my own doctors, not CNN, Fox, MSNBC or my favorite comedians/podcasters.

My gurglers are not as pretty as Flysmallie's. I have a few tied in white and yellow. I tied a few woolly worms with foam bodies once. I thought they'd be good for panfish. I called them the Unsinkable Molly Brown's b/c I used a brown body. But I've never used them, so who knows! Foam beetle is literally top 5 fish catcher for me. I tie on a yellow scrap instead of gluing, fwiw.

Very cool. I'll look for a video.

No one is lying. I misspoke. It's droplet not airborne. My bad--I'm not a doctor, I just play one on TV. My point was polio is spread in a significantly different way. We're comparing apple to kumquats here when we talk about smallpox and polio.

https://polioeradication.org/news-post/5-reasons-why-polio-can-be-eradicated/ Polio isn't airborne. It's spread through human waste. So, times have changed a bit when it comes to understand sanitation. Edit: There is also no animal to human transmission of polio. It's a different kind of virus.

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/health/lateral-thoughts-we-are-dealing-with-a-genius-virus-75445

Snagged, I'm not a virologist or immunologist, but you're not being honest in this discussion. The flu mutates enough that they best years' dose doesn't cover all strains or provided 100% immunity. How long have we searched for a "cure" to the common cold, which is also a corona virus, without even a vaccine let alone something better than Dimetapp. The data shows and non-government experts show that the vaccine is both safe and effective and preventing severe disease. The people who participated in that forum are not experts and are spreading propaganda and misinformation. Only they can tell you why.

The vax doesn't protect everyone from infection, though rates are significantly less. It protects again severe illness/hospitalization/death. This is common knowledge and as someone with w/ biology background, you know this.

https://www.wuwm.com/2022-01-25/sen-ron-johnson-whos-seeking-reelection-continues-to-facilitate-spread-of-covid-misinformation

All of these are military incidents and everyone questioned the WMDs at the time. COVID information is coming from multiple source at all times. Some government, some academic, non-academic healthcare, etc. There is continual confirmation from multiple sources as well as decades of infectious disease protocols. You're making a class false dichotomy logical fallacy. The average infectious disease doctor is not controlled by the government or the CDC and would probably love to blow the lid of any government conspiracy. You linked an "article" about who didn't attend. That's a Press Release from Ron Johnson, not an article. There is a difference. Articles involve responsible journalists who vet each facet of the story and arrive at an objective truth, which is also different from an opinion and political commentary. Readers need to understand how to differentiate.

Well, you've got the opening of your memoir. Well said.

@Phil Lilley Phil, do you still have these maps? The image paths are broken.

Such a cynical view. Sounds much more like high school than college. College teaches critical thinking. You can argue all you want that it doesn't., but it does. There are millions of anecdotal accounts and probably thousands of studies. There are thousand of jobs, high and low paying, that need a degree and the knowledge that goes with it. The tests are for accountability. Do some people test better than others? Yes. But a real college degree is about more than just hoops. @oneshot Why the heck not? At your age, you probably qualify for all kinds of grants and you wouldn't pay much of anything. Take something for fun: history, creative writing, drafting, whatever.

I have a 1595RC that I bought when I was 15ish. So 30+ years later it's still going strong, aside from chipped paint.

I bought one of their spinning reels. Like 10 or 12 bearings? So far it's smooth and I like it.

It's worth the bushwhacking just for the beauty of the stream. The last fish. caught there was on a black foam beetle in the park downtown. It came up from the bottom about 4 feet deep to hit it and I saw it the whole way. It was incredible. About a 10 inch fish. So cool.

Thanks Gavin.

Glad it was mild for you all.

Looks like a combo of a wooly worm, girdle bug, and/or pat's rubber legs. I like it. Did you guys say this was a Tyron invention on another thread? Here's the woollies. I ended up with olive, blank, brown and tan. No idea what size. Just some "panfish" hooks I had from Wal-Mart.

I did tie a 5th that was about 2/3 black, 1/3 green body with 5 legs on top and 5 on the bottom. It kind of covered up the green, but will see. Thanks for the feedback guys.

Yes, they are weighted on the curve. I thought they'd ride point up and be a little more weedless. So you think the legs should be how long? Length of the hook?

Hey gang. I tied these bully bluegill spiders on a kahle hook just because I wanted to. They are weighted about thought they might be good so goggle eye or smallmouth in my neighborhood creek. Thoughts or suggestions?