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Woody, I would love to help, but that is nearly 60 river miles down lake from here at my end. Find a bluff end, especially one with pole timber, and fish both the channel side and up onto the shelf in 29 to 35 feet of water (if the channel side is deeper than that you may find suspended fish at that depth.) Drop shot a crawler or jig a white spoon vertically.
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Good post Bill, as always. Sholder, I found I had to be persistent with the spoon to catch the walleye. I was not out Sunday. I spent the day working on back to school things. I was in that area Saturday. I fish from a Black and Silver Alumacraft (looks like a Lund but way less expensive) with a 75 hp Etec Evinrude tiller.
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All of us are glad you were able to get your ride running again.
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Dangerously Low Water Levels On Table Rock Lake Ground Boats
rps replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Table Rock Lake
Here in the upper end, I have been watching people drag their children through water I know is 6 to 8 feet deep with stumps. I cringe and pray.. -
Go up lake from Big M to the mouth of Rock Creek. The point defined by the danger buoy actually is a big J. Vertical jig the edges with either a jigging spoon or a jig with crawler or jig with minnow.
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I cleared the marina buoys this morning as soon as I could see and be seen. I had a hoodie on for the chill. I ran down lake with the intention of jigging the points at Owl Creek. Both were occupied. I ran on over to Rock Creek to find another boat trolling the area I had planned to fish. This later sunrise means more people are getting the jump on me. After the troller passed I slid in and jigged the reef for three hours. White War Eagle spoon in 29 to 33 feet of water. Multiple small bass, one large bluegill, and three walleye. Two were legal. By then the water pests were out and I went back.
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Glad you had a good day on the water QB. I was actually stopped by that water patrol boat last year. I guess they wanted to see what kind of person had a tin boat with a 75 HP tiller. They were very polite and quite complimentary that every thing was in order. Their boat is impressive, and you can tell they love cruising in it.
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August 9Th. 2012 Table Rock Lake Current Fishing Report
rps replied to Bill Babler's topic in Table Rock Lake
In an earlier post, Bill said white so I used white nail polish to make my silvers into white. I had only one 3/4 ounce earlier this week - that is my prefered weight - but it sleeps with the fishes now. Today I made do with a 1/2 ounce. The spoons I have on order are 7/8 ounce. -
August 9Th. 2012 Table Rock Lake Current Fishing Report
rps replied to Bill Babler's topic in Table Rock Lake
For you guests and new members, you need to read and pay attention to Bill's reports. This morning was tough. I only caught one. 27 inches, 7 pounds -
@lmt out: I live on TR or I would fish BS more often. Potential size on both is very good. Bull Shoals has fewer crazy boats, but is a bit more isolated in terms of off lake things. Come visit!
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Good question. The River Runt was every bit as good as the Big O and all the recycles since. The Cisco Kid was a heck of a stick bait. Who remembers coach dog braided line?
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August 9Th. 2012 Table Rock Lake Current Fishing Report
rps replied to Bill Babler's topic in Table Rock Lake
I thank you, again, for the completeness of your information. I also appreciate your willingness to let me inch a little past Rock Creek. The bluff/run out just downstram from Viney Creek point is calling to me. Any farther than that means I have to pull the boat out and trailer. My tin boat and 75 hp can only go so far and so fast. I just ordered War Eagle spoons which come with Gamakatsu EWG trebles - so of course Cabelas put theirs on sale at a price where you can afford to replace with Daiichi Death Traps. Story of my life. Hope the pattern holds through the weekend - my last before I am again a working man. -
The video is fascinating. I am sure it will catch good fish, and Mega Bass baits are well made with excellent hooks. $33+ MSRP is a deal breaker.
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Never heard of this. Totally approve!
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Excellent recipe. Try using plain yogurt instead of milk and mix the bread crumbs into the yogurt before you add the mix to the meat. The yogurt adds a background twang, the dairy is still there to bind the meat, and the bread into dairy is classic meatball technique. For a change of pace topping, mix your ketchup with 2 TBS. cider vinegar, 1 tsp sugar, and a large splash of Franks Hot Sauce.
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Mike, the man who drowned, was 34, married with two young girls, and taught industrial skills at the high school in Eureka. Several of his students won stat4e competitions and qualified for nationals where they placed.
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This last year's best football conference, based on rankings, was the Big 12. Look it up. Missouri was a "contender" in the Big 12 for football and will fare no better in the SEC. Boomer Sooner.
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This morning from around 6:45 when the lightning stopped untill 11:00.
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White spoon/ steep side, points, ends, irregularities/29 to 31 feet deep. All exactly as Bill reported.
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Some Information On The Bite That May Be Helpfull.
rps replied to Mike Worley's topic in Lower Bull Shoals
1. drop a instant read thermometer on a long cord and watch for the dramatic temp change 2. use a regular thermometer and pull it up really really fast from various depths 3. talk to the divers 4. some sonars (like the ancient paper roll Lowrance) register the thermocline when set certain ways because the colder water is (more dense?/less dense?) 5. look for bait fish holding depth -
Do Pre-Rapala Wiggle Warts Outfish New Model Warts?
rps replied to abkeenan's topic in Table Rock Lake
Some years ago I caught a sale on Brad's Wigglers and bought a couple dozen in walleye colors - I have a stash of crawdad originals for bass. I use WW all the time trolling for walleye. The Brad's Wigglers looked just like original warts, but had a much higher percentage of "wouldn't run true and couldn't be tuned." Wound up the real cost for the Brad's was higher than if I had paid retail for Original Series WW. -
White River Walleye on Worm Harnesses In 1919, Norman Rockwell painted two covers for successive issues of a magazine called The Country Gentleman. The images are now in the public domain. The Fishing Trip The Catch Even Norman Rockwell knew worms catch the fish. Why many people avoid using worms and insist on artificial baits would make an excellent topic for a psycho-social doctoral thesis. I won’t be writing that. Instead, this article is intended as a primer for fishing worm harnesses in Tablerock and the other White River impoundments. What I will share comes from fellow walleye fishermen who have showed me a number of tricks. In particular, I want to thank Chuck Etheredge of Holiday Island, Arkansas. Chuck holds the Holiday Island Marina walleye record at 14.5 pounds, and he is the one who taught me about his harnesses for brush fishing crawlers. The Bait Nightcrawlers are one of nature’s perfect animals. They aerate the soil, they help break down leaves and other dead matter to soil, and they are so valuable to growing plants that people buy them to put in their gardens. While brown trout guides below Bull Shoals dam say they use red worms because they are “more natural looking in the water,” the real reason is stocker rainbows that can’t and won’t leave the nightcrawlers alone. In the last several years nightcrawlers have become a major farmed and/or harvested crop. Grocery stores, convenience stores, and even Walmarts sell them. Typically, the containers are Styrofoam or cardboard and are filled with potting soil or mulch. I buy at several locations and find the overall quality quite good. However, I always check the contents before I leave the store. Temperature or stock rotation disasters do happen. Next important tip: As soon as you get home, place the worm boxes in the refrigerator and keep them there until the fishing trip. Crawlers will last several weeks if left alone in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator. If you are not the cook, label the boxes “worms” to avoid screams and other domestic difficulties. On the day I intend to use the crawlers, I pack the boxes in an ice chest with ice. The ice will not freeze them in their containers and will keep them cool and lively. Once I am in the boat and ready to fish, I put some ice and lake water in a flat bottom plastic bowl and add four or five crawlers. The ice water plumps them up and washes the dirt off so your boat floor stays cleaner. In addition, you will be in and out of your cooler less often. When the ice melts, merely add another piece or two. An alternative I recently learned was to bathe a day’s worth of crawlers at once, then place them in the now empty Styrofoam containers with ice. In the event you wish to buy crawlers in bulk, they are available from several mail order sources, including Cabelas. Several chapters of the classic book, Lunkers Love Nightcrawlers, cover the long term care and feeding of nightcrawlers. The Worm Harness A worm harness is nothing more than one or more hooks combined with one or more devices to attract fish. The early Crème worm was a rubber worm on a primitive worm harness. I caught my first lunker bass on this rig. Literally hundreds of commercial harness makers exist and a Ebay search for worm harness or crawler harness will prove it. Cabelas and Bass Pro each carry more than one brand and several varieties for each brand. The sheer number intimidates anglers seeking to try a new method. How can you know which ones work best? For those wanting instant gratification, the “norm” consists of two small hooks, size 2, 4, or 6, snelled on 10 to 20 pound test line. Above the hooks, you will find 3 to 8 beads, and in front of that a size 3 Colorado or Indiana blade. The entire harness will run on a single three to four foot strand of line with a swivel or loop at the end opposite the hooks. Harness Blades Variations abound including those with single hooks; Smile, Dakota, or Willow blades; and even what appears to be a wedding band in the build. To help understand the reason for blade choices I’ve built a chart: Blade Type Description Comments Normal Size Smile Easiest to spin; an offset propeller; relies on flash/ color Clear waters Medium and Large Willow Easy to spin; mostly flash Imitates shad well #4 and 5 Dakota Easy to spin; resembles either a double willow or a cutout Indiana Often painted Medium and Large Indiana A cross between a willow and a Colorado Combines thump and flash # 3, 4, and maybe 5 Colorado Requires more speed to spin but thumps Great for stained or muddy water # 3 and 4 Colors A variety of harness colors will work. I suppose you could catch a walleye on anything if you fished long enough with a crawler attached. However, the purpose of the harness is to attract the walleye to find the worm. Certain colors and styles tend to work consistently. As a side note, the common forage of walleyes in our chain of lakes explains the color choices. Walleye in the White River chain primarily feed on shad and bluegill. As yellow perch, common walleye forage in the North, become more prolific in Bull Shoals, the color choices for that lake may change somewhat. Bodies with chartreuse, red, green, pink, and white are the most commonly used. I own a box of plastic beads I bought from Cabelas for tying traditional harnesses. It contains no less than 24 different shades that are variations on all of the above except white. Traditional harnesses frequently use more than one of these colors. Common blade colors include silver, copper, and air brushed or painted blades using the color palate listed above. While I have had some success with half silver/half gold blades, harnesses with solid gold blades have never proven successful for me. Again, the yellow perch in Bull Shoals may change that. Copper Colorado Blade/Pink Float Beads Silver/Yellow/Red Colorado Blade/Chartreuse Float Beads Silver Willow Blade/Firetiger Float Beads Painted Colorado Blade/White Float Beads (Wonderbread) How In a previous article, Trolling for Table Rock Walleye, I wrote extensively about where and how to locate walleye. I urge you to read or re-read that article for location information. Depth and speed are the other variables that combine with location to determine whether you have success. Fishermen successfully use harnesses for fish holding as shallow as 6 or 8 feet. The harnesses are equally successful on the Great Lakes at 45 feet behind downriggers. For the White River lakes I do not advise downriggers. Instead, those who target walleyes use three way rigs or bottom bouncers. A three way rig utilizes a three way swivel. The main line attaches to one ring, 12 to 24 inches of line with a bell sinker at the end attaches to the second ring. The third ring holds the harness line. Those who use this rig do so because they can quickly change the amount of weight or adjust the height off bottom. I suggest any who use this rig make sure that the strongest of the three lines is the main line to the reel. The second strongest should be the line to the harness. The weight line should be weaker than either of the others. The alternative to a three way rig is a bottom bouncer. The main line attaches at the junction of the “L.” The harness line attaches to the swivel at the end of the unweighted arm. As the boat moves forward the weighted arm tip brushes the bottom while the harness follows behind the weight and somewhat above it. Bottom bouncers come in a variety of weights, ranging from ½ ounce to 4 ounces. What size to use? Traditionalists will tell you to use 1 ounce for every 10 feet of depth you will be fishing. That advice is accurate and useful under normal circumstances, especially when combined with the traditional advice on speed and how much line should be out. If you search the internet for articles on using harnesses and bottom bouncers, almost all will tell you the ideal configuration will have the main line running from the boat to the bouncer at a 45 degrees or less. Those articles also suggest the bouncer should only “bounce” from time to time. These articles are absolutely correct, and professional walleye fishermen use these “rules of thumb” every tournament. The last element of traditional harness fishing is the speed. Most days a speed of .8 mph to 1.4 mph will be the most effective. Be aware the type of blade can change the effective speed. A Willow spins far more easily than a Colorado. A Smile blade can spin with even less speed. You should go at least fast enough to spin the blade. However, the ultimate decision maker on speed will be the fish. Sluggish fish may want a slow presentation. If so the weight will be less and the blade choice would be a Smile or Willow. On other days, hot water fish may need a fast speed to trigger bites. In that case a heavier weight and more line may be needed to reach the depth desired. Chuck’s Secret Method Careful readers may have noticed the pictures of my harnesses above are different from what they see in stores or some of the sketches I have drawn and inserted. The differences are only a part of the “secret” method Chuck Etheredge taught me two years ago. His method is an adaptation of the traditional ways; one that is designed for the highland reservoirs with submerged timber, brush, stumps, car size rocks, and house foundations. Chuck wanted a harness that was less likely to sink when the bottom bouncer stalled because it hit a rock or limb. To that end he substituted floats for the sinking beads. If you put one of his rigs in the water and lay the bouncer on the bottom, the blade slides down to the weight, but the floats, hook, and worm stay up. He also experimented to see if he could avoid exposed hooks. He took from the bass fishermen the idea of Texas rigging the worm. Yes, it is a soft, real nightcrawler, but the embedded hook had to help a little. In addition, one hook point instead of two equaled half as many hang points. He found a worm hook in size 1 or 1/0 was every bit as good as the traditional two small hooks in sticking fish. Last, to keep the float beads and blade from pushing the worm down into a wad, he made another innovation. He uses a bobber stop to hold the beads in place. In addition to changing the harness, Chuck defies conventional wisdom as to bottom bouncer weight. He intentionally uses about half the weight considered standard. At 20 feet he will use one ounce. At thirty feet he will have on a 1.5 or 2 ounce bouncer. To reach the bottom, this means he must have out considerably more line. The change in angle between the boat and the bait is exactly the reason for his unorthodoxy. He believes the “flatter” angle aids in pulling the rig up and over limbs and logs. The combination of differences works for Chuck. On more than occasion I have watched him fish snag filled flats and timbered channel edges with his worm harnesses. Yes he will sometimes hang up, but far less often than anyone would expect. And while he is at it, he catches fish. The first time he showed me his ways, he tried to explain his uncanny success at staying free from hangs. In my words, he does it like this. When he feels the line begin to rub over a limb, he does not jerk. He waits until the line between the limb and harness shortens. As this happens, braid line will sing or vibrate. Quite often the rod tip will feel heavier. Just when he feels the bouncer arm contact the limb, he lifts the rod in a high arc to pop the rig and harness over the limb. He then lets the bouncer fall back to the bottom. Many bites happen on that drop. Please note that Chuck’s method requires the angler to hold the rod and feel for the key moment. This is different from those who put the harness rod in a holder. Results Every article about a fishing method should include a few pictures to vouch for the method and the author. A Table Rock Limit from 2010 when Chuck showed me his secrets Three from June of 2011 My personal best, 13.75 pounds, July 8, 2011, on one of Chuck’s style harnesses.
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Table Rock Lake Current Fishing Report July 31St. 2012
rps replied to Bill Babler's topic in Table Rock Lake
Very useful Bill, and thank you. -
I have fished in that area frequently in the last month. However, it was all daytime. First, the reef at the mouth of Rock Creek has numerous prop killers just under the waterline. The spotted bass (and gar) are there every day so I would imagine that would be one excellent stop. The place where they jump in at point 23? should be excellent at night as well.
